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GASSER MUST HAVES and cant haves?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by DirtyDave, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. A few I have saved. May be dupes from this thread, if so, apologies.
     

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  2. squirrel
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    heh...if you wanna build a gasser and race it, you kinda gotta meet the current rules. If you're building a car as "art", you can do whatever you want. I like the racing thing, personally, so I'll never get an accurate old looking car.
     
  3. 1971BB427
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    That is so true! It's tough to build a period correct car and meet most sanctioned event safety rules. Neither of my cars will pass NHRA tech, so I race at small tracks with looser rules, or specific events where tech is modified for period cars. The new safety rules are fantastic, but they certainly don't account for period cars that in most cases don't even run fast enough to require a cage or rollbar. Problem is even if your car runs slower than what's required for a cage, if it has a bar it still has to pass tech.
     
  4. rotten johnny
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    Passing your car as a gasser in nhra ......no problem
    Passing your car as a gasser on the hamb.............problem
     
  5. langy
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    Yeah I understand that, thats why I mentioned the rules. The rules here are slightly more relaxed.
     
  6. langy
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    Hahaha so true !!!
     
  7. powrshftr
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    Now that's some funny shit right there!:D

    Scott


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  8. 1971BB427
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    Funny, but oh so true! Regardless of the post, there's never any shortage of feedback on the HAMB! :)
     
  9. powrshftr
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    You're right.Im glad there seems to be a lot less miserable bastards handing out "advice" lately,and far more genuinely helpful members.

    I've received so much help from HAMBers on my coupe build lately,that I can honestly say I would never have been able to start building the car without this site,it's pool of tech knowledge,availability of killer vintage speed equipment,and all around helpful attitude and encouragement provided by members to somebody fighting an uphill battle to get a project started.

    Without you guys I would still be staring at pictures of coupes on Google images,and saying "maybe someday"...

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  10. D.N.D.
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    Passing your car on the HAMB a problem ==== that's because WE care!!!!!!!!!!

    G Don
     
  11. Johnny Gee
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    I like :)
     
  12. jimdillon
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    Working on my hardtop today so easier to include a pic of my bar. The cars I worked on in the 60s had three point bars so I thought this would be the ticket. It meets absolutely no tech, although I have had it pass tech a couple of times with nothing but compliments. I had the pipe sitting around (slightly under 2" and .156 wall) so I bent it and then made it so I could disassemble it to chrome it. It attaches solidly to the frame.

    I had my upholsterer make the headrests as my head with the helmet hits the bar on shifts. I had him make one for the passenger side or I would have heard it from the better half as to why I did not have one for her, even though she does not come close to the bar at her height.

    I also like the comment by Johnny Rotten.

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  13. powrshftr
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    Jim:
    I would be COMPLETELY out of my element with a car as flawless as that!
    That thing is absolutely gorgeous!

    Scott


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  14. USA Tires Sign Joe
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    Build it your way and drive the sh@T OUT OF IT!
     
  15. Do you have a build thread going ?
     
  16. langy
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    Yeah what Phil said, if not get one started !!!
     
  17. 1971BB427
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    Looks great Jim, and I bet a lot more protection than the glass top!
     
  18. jimdillon
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    Thanks for the compliments (you too Scott) I like chrome rollbars but would rather not put it to the test. Now back to wrestling with my back window in my hardtop-fun stuff-Jim
     
  19. powrshftr
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    Not yet Phil.I'm just getting the last of my chassis parts scraped together to start mockup and fabrication.I still need wheels and tires to set my final stance,and I have to finish assembling the Hemi.
    I decided I'm going to build it fender less,with as much engine setback as I can comfortably fit,so technically its going to be more of an Altered than a Gasser......Sorry gasser guys.

    But between front suspension threads,rear suspension threads,steering threads,and a dozen model A threads,you guys did a lot of my homework for me,so its going to be a really fun build.
    I'll start a thread as soon as I get some serious progress made,so that its a little easier to stay ahead and not leave people hanging for weeks on end while I work on it.

    Thanks guys.

    Scott


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  20. Baron
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    Now that is something that is NO FUN ! :eek: Good luck.
     
  21. D.N.D.
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    Hey Scott

    Put your fenders on it and build a ' Out Law Gasser ' and run it where ever you can

    Bet there's more than one track where it would not matter at all, then you would still have your Gasser

    G Don
     
  22. powrshftr
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    Don,
    I'm tempted to,as Quain and his gang look like they're havin' all the fun!:)

    I'm really torn between the two though:

    Run fenders (which i dont usually like the look of on A's),and be allowed to compete in some really special events.....or build my dream car (fender less), and hope that I will be allowed to make exhibition passes with it at these events.

    Also,if I stick close to the 10% rule,it will only allow me a hair over 10" of engine setback,so here's what I may do to have the best of both worlds:

    Build it with the setback and driver position I like,but fab brackets for the fenders that allows them to easily be attached for "gasser" style races.

    The hard chop,engine setback,and lack of a radiator up front (Im gonna run a big aluminum one in the trunk similar to the setups used by Boutlaw and Merek Chertkow) probably means I will have to run it as an "Outlaw" gasser,and hope that folks will find a place for the car in their program.

    The rest of the time I will be running fender less,and having a ball!:)

    Scott




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  23. langy
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    Lets talk fibreglass :eek: I know there were frontends, doors etc etc available back in the 60's but what about body shells, Did anybody make one ???

    I would of thought that they would of jumped at the chance of losing so much weight in one go ?
     
  24. Jimbo17
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    The Southern Gassers Association is running many of the old 1965 style gassers at many tracks and having a blast doing it.

    I think there are other groups around the country doing the exact same thing and there is a great deal of interest in this old style of drag racing.

    Jimbo
     
  25. Phil1934
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    Gas Coupes/Sedans – Must have a coupe or sedan body originally produced by an American automobile manufacturer. Any foreign coupe or sedan may compete i this division as ling as it meets all of the class requirements; a minimum of 92 inches stock wheelbase, fenders, frame, etc. Moderate customizing is permitted but bodies may be chopped, channeled, or sectioned not more than 4 inches total height reduction. Bodies cannot otherwise be altered in height, width, length or contour. Roll bars are required in all convertibles, all customized cars (i.e. chopped, sectioned, etc) all Supercharged cars using fiberglass components, i.e., hood, fenders, doors, trunk lids, regardless of class. Highly recommended in all other classes. Removal of front body panels or fender bracing not permitted. The use of fiberglass bodies in the Gas Coupes/Sedans Division is not permitted. Lightening bodies by drilling holes or gutting interior is not permitted. Convertible couples/sedans with roll-up windows compete in the division but must run with the top up. Sedan Delivery, pickup trucks, Ranchero, El Camino, etc may compete in this division. Pickup beds must be of standard height and width a minimum of 36 inches in length and have a full serviceable pickup bed. All cars in this division must have fully operative mechanical door handles to permit exit and/or entrance for either side. Bodies and/or frames may not be raised to gain weight-transfer to rear wheels.
     
  26. langy
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    They bent all the other rules so i'm surprised they didn't find a way around this one.
     
  27. 1971BB427
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    They did Steve, but it wasn't until I think '69 when NHRA finally allowed glass bodies. And the "lightening" of bodies rule was constantly broken. With the cars having full interior panels it was impossible for tech to see if the structure below was punched full of holes to lighten it.
     
  28. Baron
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    Not a gasser , but I was surprised when I saw this picture of a fiberglass-body A sedan racing back in the late sixties at NE Dragway.
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  29. langy
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    Yeah i was aware of them getting popular in 69 Vall just surprised it wasn't sooner.

    I always thought of the interior rule to be a good one but I see more and more these days without street interiors.
     
  30. 1971BB427
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    I think they were around a little sooner on match race gassers. Since match racing didn't have to meet the normal gas class rules, anything was done to win.
     

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