So I just ran across this last week. Didnt know if anyone knew about this or not but thought it might help... Im heading tomorrow to get title for my '49 which Ive been waiting for an inspector since July... Legislation (S.B. 344) to provide for the prompt issuance of titles to owners of out-of-state motor vehicles that are 35-years old or older was approved by the full House of Representatives. Having already been passed by the Senate, the bill will now be sent to Governor Pat McCrory for his signature and enactment into law. Under the bill, if a required inspection and verification is not conducted by the Division of Motor Vehicles within 15 days after receiving a request and the inspector has no probable cause to believe that the ownership documents or public vehicle identification number does not match the vehicle being examined, the vehicle will be deemed to have satisfied all inspection and verification requirements and the title will be issued to the owner within 15 days. If an inspection and verification is performed in a timely manner and the vehicle passes the inspection and verification, title will issue to the owner within 15 days of the date of the inspection. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya but I didnt know about it till recently... Didnt know if anyone else did either... To get your title after the 15 days if they dont come look at it you go back to tag office and inform them...
In NC any vehicle 35 or older with an out of state title must be inspected by an officer to insure its not stolen (even though it currently has a title). But now with revisions above... My 49 was a 1 owner truck out of VA... I havent got to start on it since I been waiting on an inspection
I had to have one inspected in NC, I loaded it up on a trailer and was at the inspectors office around 7:30 in the morning, he came right out and checked and I was good to go.
"In NC any vehicle 35 or older with an out of state title must be inspected by an officer to insure its not stolen....." And to see if the vehicle is not the result of a bunch of chopped up remains of stolen vehicles. Not sure how they would determine it but that's what the inspector told me when I drove my 50 Merc to the DMV to have it inspected.
between the inspectors taking forever to come out in some areas and then half of them not knowing how to do their job when they do come out the big blessing of this being passed would be just to hope they don't come out within the time frame. i know of half a dozen people that the inspector filled out the paperwork wrong and it took MONTHS and one over a year to get it straightened out and they were not allowed to do anything to the vehicles until it was straight.
Took me almost 7 months to get my last title. First, they claimed they sent out the inspector for the wrong county (wtf?), so they dicked me around on that. Then the supposed "correct" guy came out and told me that the body had to come off the frame in order for him to see the vin # on the frame. That meant waiting for him to come back again. Then after he verified the numbers matched, he sasid he had to see the body back on the frame so that he could take pictures of the car. WTF didn't he take pictures the first time out???? Just more dicking me around. Finally got my title, with the correct year of manufacture almost 7 months after I bought the vehicle. Couldn't do anything to it during those 7 months for fear that the inspector would be screw me over and write it up as a 2013 street rod. The same guy came out to a friend's house to inspect a mid-sixties Lincoln. He didn't even know where to look for the vin, had to call someone. They told him it was on the fender apron. He actually had to ask my friend where that would be. How can you not know what a fender apron is if you are supposed to be inspecting cars?
All this is the main reason why I will never buy another car that doesn't have a title,,all these kind of problems will give a sane man a ulcer! HRP
We don't have a choice here in Oregon. ALL out of state vehicles have to be inspected, regardless of age before a Oregon title is issued. I've never had a problem getting one through, but they don't do house calls. You have to drive or trailer it to a DMV office and have them inspected. I always do it before I turn a wrench or buy a single part.
Yup, same here, and I always have a cop check the serial/VIN before I lay down cash to make the deal, in the event that there is no title, in-state, or out-of-state. The law is the law. It is your responsibility to know it, as it is in your particular state. If you cannot or will not follow it, you deserve whatever punishment you are assigned. Just remember, every time one of "those car people" (aka: us) gets pinched for doing something stupid, it is one more mark against us. Don't be the be the one who is responsible for new, punitive legislation. Oh, and don't bother trying to stack up not running fenders with this. Minor motor vehicle infractions don't line up with felony level VIN tampering or fraud. Yeah there is a process. Yeah, it takes time. Yeah, in a lot of ways it does really suck. Trust me, all of the alternatives will suck worse.
I know what YOM stands for. I answered the question that way incase someone else did not... Quote: "All this is the main reason why I will never buy another car that doesn't have a title,,all these kind of problems will gibe a sane man a ulcer! HRP" Ya Ill never buy another car without a title after buying a stolen car and loosing it... and all the money along with it...
My Turn.......... I've just had my 34 coupe from Oregon checked 10 months agon in NC, I'm telling you right now, he knew what he was doing! My Oregon title had 6 of the 8 digits required on the Oregon title, inspector knew that it required 8 for 1934, preceeded by the star and finished by the star. IMHO I was damn lucky that the inspector took the time to bring out the the other two digits, mainly the 18 on the frame. Yep, he ran the number, no issues, title issued to me as 1934 .........and.......only with the 6 digits on the title, beats the hell out me why he didn't go the full 8 since we could see them, didn't press, was just too relieved that I didn't have a full hassle. Second car, 1933 Florida title, VIN matched tag attached to body, before purchase ran via local friendly to assure not stolen, traced car back to the builder in NB, confirmed he built the car, confirmed history, gained a ton of build pictures, confidence high, so I purchased the car. Here comes the NC inspector.......dumb ass me thinks the frame has been ground smooth and the VIN on the body is good. Nope, Ms Inspector acided the frame found the WRONG numbers on the frame!! Do you think I had pucker marks in my shop stool?? So after many discussions with the inspector, again very knowledable, she agreed that car should or could be titled in NC as a 1933 "Replica". Once we knew the actual Frame number (which was also 2 diigts short, but had the stars before the 1st and after the 6th) she ran the numbers and gave me a new VIN. YES, Yes, it sucks that I have a title for an all steel original body and frame, but it's ownership is confirmed as mine. NOW, since I had a new VIN, NC requires a bond in case anyone claims ownership, small cost at Hagertys and I'm set. Now, get this!! Once I discovered the VIN on the frame, I discovered that Florida would allow change of VIN if inspected by a local Law enforcement officer or active military officer and some others. Although the ex-owner would cooperate and assist with all documentation, title service in Florida, etc., to correct the VIN to the original, Ms Inspector wouldn't allow this. Honestly, she never really say why, it seems just like it was her judgement call. I know that a lot of you will howl about this, but be as it may, I'm content to drive the car and knowing that I'll not have an issue in the future. On note about NC.......IT IS A FRAME STATE.........which means, they don't give a S..t about anything not stamped into the frame. .........and my inspectors were ready to help, although busy and with what I always see......an attitude I don't understand......
Quick Question. So if you are building a 31 Av8 roadster with reproduction parts, frame, and body, and then the rest original parts, it sounds to me like the best I can hope for is to be titled as a 2014 reproduction 1931 Ford Roadster? Is this correct? If I wanted it titled as a 1931 Ford Roadster I would need to have a frame and title from one? Thanks.
I asked the Ms Inspector about a reproduction frame.....will be a 2014 title......tried to explain it would be a replacement frame, but Ms Inspector said yes, but not original. If you have an original frame with number / title, body on the frame it works because you will get an "inoperable vehicle" title. When the car is finished, you have to have another inspection for drivability...
Oh, a suggestion if you're going the Model A route for frame information, go to the sister site, Ford Barn, for a ton of information. There is one thread about Model 40 VINs and other years that are just fantastic, so much information. That is how I found that there is still a possibility that my frame may have another number on the rear cross member, but that depended on the factory location.....Just a suggestion, read to find the original frame information so you're well aware of what the inspector will be looking for. The first Mr Inspector gave me a "We have access to information you don't have".......which I think is a bunch of crap.....
Thanks for the info. I have 3 original frames, no numbers on 2 of them (that I can find) and about 6 numbers and stars on one of them. No titles on any of them. I also have 2 reproduction Model A frame rails. Was trying to figure out which way to go. Use the old frame with the numbers and no title, use the reproduction rails and old cross members, or just use all new stuff?
One more comment, I thought I posted this, so if it comes in again....sorry.......get onto the Ford Barn site, search HAMB, there are some great threads about searching for frame numbers on the old fords, also VIN number series for the years.
it WILL NOT be a 2014 title if you have an inspector that knows what they are doing. it will be a 19??(whatever fits year wise) REPLICA title. a 2014 title would make you subject to ALL inspections that all 2014 model cars are subject to. safety, emissions, the whole lot. i posted info on this for another member a few months ago from the wilmington area who's inspector had incorrectly titled his car as a 2013. the links to all this are on the Rutter's Rod Shop(where i worked at the time) webpage. since i no longer support them i no longer provide links to them in any way so google it if need be....ken...
I wonder how they handle an Advance design chevy pickup, they never had frame numbers, just the engine number and the body serial number. Some got titled by one, some by the other.
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