GASSER MUST HAVES and cant haves?

If you really want one, I have a '58 Ford grille insert here. Was going to use it on my Falcon gasser for a different look, but it was shy of enough material in the outside corners. If you might be coming down for the April swap meet, we could get together if you're interested.

 

i thought the exact same--------then i saw it after it was mentioned by quain

 

Not too brake the subject up but are any of you Gasser guys going to Detroit this weekend?


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Damn I can't wait to get home and work on my Stude. Been underway since the end of Nov. I will be home in two weeks can't wait. Just got our internet back up. we had to be North of equator for it to work.

 

Hi Chris

Just ain't nothing like laying on the cold cement floor in the winter , stick welding a vertical weld and getting a red hot dingle berry in your ear

And you have a good weld going and don't want to stop, and you can hear your ear wax sizzling from that dingle berry in there

Ah ya the great memories of building your own car ' Priceless '

G Don

 

Aaaaaaaaggh!!!

It sounds like a jet engine when one falls in your ear and starts sizzlin',doesn't it?

Stainless is even worse,cause the flux pops of the weld cap as it cools and sticks to anything nearby.....like my face.Haha.

Also,for the guys who view stick welding as primitive or substandard:
That's not the case,it produces very high quality welds if the monkey on the end of the stinger is any good.
The problem can sometimes be,that it produces very high localized heat as well.

TIG controls the chaos of the process a little better and produces very pretty welds and less heat-related warpage and distortion,but a REALLY good welder can do some real pretty 7018 3/32" welds in the right situation too.

Scott




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The difference is most of us amateurs can weld pretty good after a little practice with a MIG, but it takes a lot more practice to weld well with a stick welder, especially if you're welding vertical or overhead.

 

I bought a Sears ac machine when I was 12 and a Humble oil welder taught me how to use it. I used it until 6 years ago and bought a miller ad-dc machine. My brothers hot rod club met in a building behind my house and all of a sudden they were nice to me because welding machines were not that plentiful. I bought a mig a few years ago but I still stick anything that is important. I bought the Sears machine in 1959 and sold it not very long ago. The fan in it was so loud

 

Battle Scars, lots of Battle Scars !!! Chris

 

Danny:
It's amazing how many instant friends appear when you can weld,isn't it..?
And your machine holds true with most of the old Lincolns and other ancient stick machines I see
In garages and shops:That old stuff was built with true quality.Practically bulletproof!

Vall:
That's what's nice about the MIG machines;they're a little less intimidating for a guy who's new to welding to "get his feet wet".
Once the comfort and skill level had increased,guys can branch out from there.

I just get veeeeeery nervous when I see guys trying to use an undersized,light duty cycle mug machine to weld up heavy structural stuff that would be in the range of a bigger machine's capacity and penetration ability.
But,it all boils down to the operator.The right machine used outside its intended purpose will do a substandard job,but a substandard operator with the best machine on the planet will produce some "bubblegum welds" too!

Scott






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One of the best things I ever did was take a nite welding class at the local Jr Collage

Then 6 six yrs in the weld / machine shop in the Air National Guard at the Van Nuys Airport

Taught me the right way to do things, far as sticking stuff together and making chips

G Don

 

I agree Scott, and Don. You can play around for a long time, and think it's right, but a community college class, or training from a good welder will always help you improve. The most common mistake I see guys make is not turning the heat up, for fear they'll blow through. I was told by the guy who taught me that if you don't occasionally blow through, you're probably getting some less than perfect penetrations.

 

With out good info you don't know what to look for in the weld, both top & bottom and the sides for undercut needing more rod

 

I still have my 40 year old Lincoln Buzz Box. Doesn't get much use anymore, but every now and than it does come in handy. Took a lot of welding/ practice to be good at it.
With the advent of the MIG welders, the average guy became a "welder" in a matter of a few minutes. Everybody who welds should take a few lessons , just for safety's sake. I have seen a number of cars over the years that the welds had very little (if any ) penetration. Scary stuff, to say the least.

 

i could see better with a stick welder and learned to weld round tubing i use a mig now but don't see the welds depending on the angle. i really liked gas welding modified oil pans, and gas tanks and chopped harley gas tanks

 

Didn't really think about it, but you're right. With stick your stinger was out of the way most the time, but often the MIG gun is at an angle where I find myself trying to see around it to watch the puddle.

 

Try pushing the MIG instead of dragging it like a stick of 7018.
That way you can see your puddle cause you're coming at it instead of covering it up with the cup on the gun.

Scott


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I've tried it both ways Scott, and it still blocks the puddle as it's forming, unless everything is perfectly situated on a bench. Seems that when I'm welding, I almost have to hold the gun in an awkward angle to not have the gun block the weld puddle. Always wished I had a gun for my Miller that was 90 degrees at the end, so it stayed out of the way.

 

That is what I liked about my TIG as with a small hand piece using a necked down cup and a 1/16" tungsten you could see the weld puddle very good

But now at 72' my eyes are not too good and cant see the crack no more, wind up laying a bead right along side

So now I just do the tacks, let a pro do the full welds

Much better deal, G Don

 

I've been looking at the flex tips that a few places sell. Seems like they can be adjusted to an angle that will never get in the way, and also allow me to weld on top of places where I can't normally get to.

 

Man, I am glad I read this before I drove all the way up there for the Meltdown….. Unfortunately, the Fly doesn't meet the criteria..Bummer.

 

Chris,
Your car is as legit as anything I've ever seen!
Just because you're not running fenders doesnt mean you shouldn't run the Meltdown.....It would be really great to see you bring the car out.
Hope you reconsider.

Scott


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so....who's been welding with the O/A torch lately? I use it for exhaust tubing, and some of the body stuff.

 

I still do, almost on a daily basis. First choice when doing custom body work.

 

I was totally bummed, I was really excited about going to the Meltdown. I was even pondering building a new gasser for it.

Maybe, I misread the post but I swear they said no automatics. I run a 60's glide. I'm not retrofitting the car to put a stick in it. I appreciate a good stick car as much as the next guy but.........

 

I'm running an automatic at the meltdown, this year will be my 3rd year running and never had an issue.

 

This is what I was referring to. Is this a different event?

 

I'm pretty sure this is to run with Quain's Gasser group, not the whole event.

 

I hope so. I was getting excited about the Meltdown for 2015.

 

Thats for Quains and Joels north vs south race. Automatics are welcome at the Meltdown Drags.

MELTDOWN DRAGS
JULY 18-20 2014