GASSER MUST HAVES and cant haves?

Sweet.....

Not to be a shameless self promoter but, I have a social group that you guys might be interested in. The group has been pretty dead for a while. I was hoping you guys could breathe new life into it.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?groupid=555

 

That's an event within the event. A few of the rabid gasser faithful have started a North vs. South stick car / gasser shootout. The specific reference is to Quain Stott's Souther Gasser group. They have very specific rules and guidelines including - must be a stick car. They feel it's better entertainment... I happen to agree. The videos back this up

Automatic cars are very welcome. Your car is very welcome. Don't you dare miss this event because of a misunderstanding

Cheers

 

weren't hydros and clutchflites automatics, don't think the King of the gassers was ever a stick -- must have been something else that killed the gassers---never had a really fast car (mid 11s 47 years ago) but could cut a good light with a home made line lock and a T10...

 

Almost all of the supercharged Gas class cars ran hydro's or automatics.
El Padrone ran supercharged with a stick.

MELTDOWN DRAGS
JULY 18-20 2014

 

I love sticks, but automatics are very traditional in the original gas classes. And automatics did NOT kill the gas class! If they did it sure took a lot of years after they became popular to die! I've got one of each, and enjoy both methods of driving.

 

I don't think anyone is arguing whether automatics are traditional or not. Some of the gasser associations think 4 speeds put on a better show so it's in their rules. And (as a side note) some other gasser associations require automatics.

It's not about tradition. It's about the priorities of the groups and the show.

 

Thank's Larry, couldn't have said it better myself. That post was pulled in from several months ago fore some reason, and with out reading the post before it it don't make since.

 

I agree LarryT! We all enjoy a good stick shift race much more than automatics. Just didn't want people reading this thread to think an automatic wasn't period correct.

 

The Blown cars ran Hydro's as that is all that would hold up, and the blown 392 could take up the power loss

The top un-blown cars ran a 4 speed that was good for a tenth or better over the automatic

Plus they did not have a hi-stall converter in them so you could leave harder with a clutch, all depends how brave you were on how much rpm you wanted to go too when side stepping the clutch petal

G Don

 

..,huh, whats that..,someone say sumthin about rabid gasser people!!!? WHO SAID THAT??? YOU WANT SOME SUCKER!?..,

Never mind that outburst Dave..,you know, the bad voices again.., ok you s@#t stirring bad voices, back to work on the '56!

 

I hear the weak link on the clutch flites was the sprag gear. I just sold one a few years back.

 

Ken Dondero successfly ran a 4 speed behind a blower in the Panella Brothers car. Several others did too.

 

I'am talking the early 60's when SWC- Maz and KS were using the B &M hydro's, and us injected guys ran 4 speeds

My buddy had a hydro in his 37 chevy b/gasser and he picked up a tenth and a half when putting in a 4 speed

 

Root ,Im preregistered and thrashing to have the old blue Studebaker ready. Hope to see you there Danny

 

Yea, with all other things equal, a manual transmission is still quicker than an automatic.

 

The NHRA record books don't lie....check out the fastest and quickest Super Stock cars: All stick cars

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Danny, it won't be this year. I have to finish my tow rig first.

 

rule books "create " records---seems to me in the early 60's those hemi's with autos were outrunnig lots of four speeds before mopar even had one also don't compare these Liberty , Jehrico , Lenco's to a slick shift conversion on a T 10---i have never liked rules that were all about excluding people or giving one car an advantage...

 

I believe it was all those guys driving the four speed cars who "created" the records!

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I think Ohio George might argue that point. He won a few Nationals, and set several records with a hydro.

 

He ran a La Salle transmission behind the Cadillac in the Willys.

BTW B & M helped SWC and KS Pittman in the early 60's (with more than transmissions). End result was winning performance for the racers and and a LOT of transmissions sold for B & M. The 4 speed Hydro was now the hot set up and stayed that way until Torqueflites and newer GM transmissions took over. And I guess we could talk Clutchflites and Clutchturbos too.

 

Yes, but not all the time he ran the Caddy. He was sponsored by Hydromotive, and switched to their trans with the Caddy engine. He kept the Hydromotive trans when he went to Chevy later, and again when he went to the SOHC Ford.

 

This guy Dick Gazan, I met in the mid 80's and went to work for, had worked at B&M in the late 60's early 70's. When they came out with the first 9" converter (built from a Ford Cortina core), they gave the first one to a guy with an Olds wagon Stock Eliminator, and it woke it up big time. Then they gave on to Stone, Woods & Cook, who was already running a Torque Flight, but with a 12 or 13" converter. He said that 9" converted made that last Willys into a guard rail hungry animal.

 

B&M helped a lot of people and were easy to talk to on the phone ---we were trying to build a stall converter in the early sixties by removing the fins and contouring them then furnace brazing them back in ---sent us the first Loctite we ever saw for free in the mail---good guys

 

When we used to cruise Van Nuys Blvd we would drive by B & M's first shop , and most nite's there would be some ones gasser in the shop that they were working on

They were putting on the Quarter Eliptic Rear springs on several of the good running cars at the time, since that was their idea for weight transfer and to hook up better with the hard slicks we had at the time

Then later they designed the B & M Sportscoach Motor Home to get into a larger market for selling products, and moved to Chatsworth in a huge building

G Don

 

I ran a Fairbanks ClutchTurbo behind the Blown Alcohol BBC in my Willys, Never hurt anything in that Trans !! after I put a Lenco in it, I gave it to a friend who put it behind a 598 CU IN BBC Chevelle and it still lives on the street ! Tough Tough Trans !! Chris

 

I have the b&m adapter and front pump drive for a clutchflight but no input shaft where does a guy get parts for one of these nowadays


Chrome don't get ya home

 

Use the search option here and look for "Clutchflights/Turbo's", there is some info there. Some granny shop in the midwest/northeast is building new ones. Also I think ATI transmissions is, or owns the remnant of Fairbanks who also built them. I have a couple buddies at McLeod, and want to see if they ate interested in building new conversion parts for them. I have a complete freshened (by John Kilgore) clutch turbo that they could use to copy, and start making parts. It would be good for them, they'd be selling clutch stuff to automatic guys.

 

Try googling Maverick Performance.
I think they'll hook you up

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Try Lyons Performance.
http://www.lyonsperformance.com/clutch-hydro-p-465.html

Haven't dealt with them, but was thinking about a clutch Turbo in my Austin gasser and found them.