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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fargo52, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. Fargo52
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    I am replacing the brake wheel cylinders on my 52 Dodge/Fargo F0-1 ,1/2 ton truck , my supplier is telling me there is a difference from the left and right side, size of the wheel cylinder , can some one explain and if so which side is the larger .


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  2. saltflats
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    Cant say I ever heard of that. I know they come different front too rear. Maybe different right to left in mounting not size.
     
  3. JohnEvans
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    The size [bore] must be the same on both sides on the same axle. Mounting pattern ,hose orientation etc. can be different side to side.
     
  4. Ulu
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    If it's typical postwar Mopar it has one on each rear brake & they're not the same. It has 2 on each front, upper and lower, & they're different plus they're inverted left to right.

    So there's only 2 cylinder kits needed but 3 distinct cylinders drilled for lefts & rights.

    EDIT: I just looked on Bernbaum & the trucks are different.
     
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  5. Fargo52
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    Just checked my parts book and the wheel cylinder is stepped in size front cup is smaller then the rear cup in the same cylinder .


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  6. Ulu
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    That allows the leading shoe to have the same pressure on the drum as the trailing shoe, even though the leading shoe is self energizing. (It "digs" into the drum harder because of the direction of rotation.)

    Of course in reverse the situation is reversed.
     
  7. Fargo52
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    Thank you that has answered my question I just wanted to make sure my supplier was correct , didn't like the price $130 each ,


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  8. saltflats
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    So it does not have different size right to left is that correct?
     
  9. I just rebuild the brake system on my '53 dodge b3b, I didn't see any difference between the left and right wheel cylinders when I had them out. I didn't replace them, just rebuilt them with kits from napa since I couldn't justify spending all that money on new cylinders. I will say the the rears are another story, 2 different wheel cylinders in each drum....an upper and a lower connected with a tube between them and each with its own bleeder.
     
  10. Ulu
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    See, on the cars, it's the front that has dualls and singles at the rear.
     
  11. Root66
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    The difference between left/right on front wheel cylinders is the hose fitting, the angled hose bung needs to point outward in the same direction on each side.
     
  12. Both of mine were straight...maybe my cylinders were swapped at some point in the past.
     
  13. Fargo52
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    There is a different part number and the left and right side are different in the 51-53 parts book from Dodge


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  14. Fargo52
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    Got the new front brake cylinders in and new shoes on bought a panel truck this summer it's getting a Dakota frame swap and took the good drums off it . New wheel seals ,king pins that I bought awhile back repack the bearings .Bleed all the brakes adjusted the brakes as per service manual .Snow is finally gone and the streets are dry enough so I took her out for a test drive ,stops and steers great I will put another 30 miles on her then recheck the brake drag and might have to readjust the brakes . I am still wanting to do a rear axle gear ratio swap 3:55.??? Some local guys think they might have a carrier assembly out of a car that might work ,it's my understanding that my truck axle is 10 spline on the pinion spider gears and I need to check as this will be an issue .If anyone has done this please let me know what vehicle will work ,I was just wanting to swap the ratio not a complete axle, wanting to keep it original.


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