I know this is a highly obscure question, but I have a 53 317 cu in. Lincoln Y block in my 34 Ford. It had been converted to conventional style oil filter at some point. It has no clearance to spin the filter off without either pulling the motor, or completely removing the steering box. I would rather just cut the end of the filter off and spin off the remainder, and replace it with one of those 90° angled filter adapters My question is, since I can't take this apart to check, does anyone know the thread pitch for the filter? Same as a ford? I'd like to just order something off the shelf if I can, unless something factory would also bolt up, maybe from a big ford truck or something Thanks
I remember the conversion kit used a typical Ford filter that would fit a whole bunch of 60's engines [221-351, 332-428, 429-460 etc] so would be 3/4-16 thread...I have Ford factory right angle filter mount [made by Mellings] I took off an engine but don't know the application....I don't remember what the threads were in the block or exactly how the spin on filter adaptor is held on but I don't think you will have too much of a problem..I see you are in CT, if you need some type of threaded adaptor let me know.....
The Ford motorsport book still shows the 90 degree adapter. They were also used on many 360/390 trucks, and 460 trucks as well.
That is correct, F-E engines used the 90 degree adaptor on large trucks, and some pickups. I believe the Y blocks, MELs, and F-Es all were thread and diameter interchangeable on oil filter applications. (Mix and match...) I personally thanked the F-E gods when I did the 427 side oiler in a past '54 Ford coupe... Late at night, last thing on the list...my pal Geno said, "I've got a truck engine with one that points straight down!" We lit it an hour later... Actually, it's kind of wonderful to discover all the 'relative interchanges' when doing a transplant...I always say, "Thanks, Edsel!" The guys laugh. But I'm sincere!
The right-angle adaptors are real common in later V8 vans and RVs... There may be some monkey-motion involved as the adaptors replace the threaded stub in the block that the filter screws to, so you may have to home-build an adaptor if the threads in the block are different, but IIRC it should be the same...
Didn't Y blocks have an oil canister? All the FE I ever seen have the filter pointing strait down...Would be great if block was 3/4-16 but will still have to use the big disc adaptor for canister to screw on as I think thats what the op has now...
Thanks for the replies guys. that is what I was hoping to hear I have about a 1/4" before the filter hits the steering box (the filter comes out the side of the block), so someone put the filter on before engine installation, and/or removed the steering box every time they changed the filter...if they even changed it at all... it had already been converted to conventional type before I got it, so I think you're right about the disc adapter. I am hoping that it won't be an issue, and a right angle adapter can mate up with the disc without issue
The Ford Motorsport one used here. You still have to spin the center bolt for initial install only. Assuming Lincoln is the same 3/4-16 pitch.
Have you thought about a shorter filter? If you are using the standard Ford FL1, there are plenty of shorter filters that will work. There are also some that are smaller in diameter. IIRC, Motorcraft FL300 is only 4" long but meets all the other specs of the FL1. There is another that is even shorter but I don't recall the number or application off hand. Look at this thread for more info: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453721
This looks like it would work perfectly in my situation, thanks! i'll have to get an exact measurement and see if a shorter filter would work. thanks for the link!
That's actually what I was asking about on room. I use Wix filters but most are more familiar with fram numbers. As was said the FL1A is the standard Ford V8 filter. The next shorter filter is the PH43 the standard Mopar V8 filter. Next shorter one is the PH 16 used on Police Interceptor 351W with oil cooler. Wix 51335 is about 2" long. Just cross ref to Wix on the fram numbers.
Works, depending on his steering box location. By the time you add the 90's on the adaptor, the Ford unit is shorter.
The FL400S is smaller diameter and shorter. Its designed for a newer engine, so the filter media is finer. Its easier to get up into place just because its smaller, so I have been using it in place of the FL1. Screws right on and works great.
just to update this, the WIX 51335 looks like it will do the job. I havent installed it yet, but once I get the old one off, i should have about 1.5" between the filter and steering box. thanks again for the help!
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