Technical Need Help

Came time to do a brake job on the '38 and I ran into a small problem. When I first bought the car the previous owner said the guy before him had a subframe welded in. Since the car doesn't see many miles it's never needed a brake job since I've owned it,well now it does and I have no earthly idea what subframe it has to match up the shoes for the drums to replace them. I've tried googling images and 99.999999% of the ones that pop up are new tubular or new disc brake front ends not the old drum setup's. I measured the shoes and the drum,the shoes are 9"L x 2.5"W the drum is 9 3/4" interior. I went down to 3 different parts stores to try and match them but none of them had anything in stock that matched up right. Here's some pictures,looks like the steering box is behind the cross member.







this is the back of the frame where it dips by the firewall,not sure what that perch is so I took a picture of it

 

Looks like a G body

 

looks like maybe Mustang?

 

This is an early Mustang break down I believe. Does it compare to this picture?

 

Looks like a rear steer, 68 or 69 Nova, judging by the A frame and the steering box, I had one on a 48 Chev pick up, they work well..............

 

You can more than likely narrow it down as to which it is, either Ford or GM by measuring the bolt pattern, 4.5 or 4.75 or 5.

 

that would work ***uming it's an original hub to the brakes. With hot rods, ya never know. I had a Mustang II front end on my 49 GMC, but used GM 5 lug hub and bolt pattern.

 

That is a GM shoe 9.5" x 2.5" go to the auto parts store and match up a set of #246 shoes or #241 that should work.
The only difference between the 246 has a cut out up top for e-brake lever.
241 shoes are for front brakes normally, but 246 shoes will work with no problem.

 

Early Mustangs never had a frame as such. I'd look toward a Chevy Nova. DD

 

That is not a Mustang II so rule that out. Reminds me of a chevy... But Volarae was popular but had torsion bar suspension, no springs.


Either way, you can take the shoes to an Autoparts store, and match them up.

 

There's nothing like a good parts man! Have you hugged your parts man lately?

 

Rear steer first gen camaro...67-69 and second gen nova...68-74.
Tell your parts guy 69 nova drums brakes.
Advice from the retired parts guy (me)

 

Thank you guys so much,the parts guys,errr kids, these days look like dumbfounded when I walk in and go through the same old year,make,model questions. I kinda like it though, "Ok but it's not gonna be in your computer" kid -"but sir I can't help you if you don't give me this information" me-"Sure thing kid, it's a 1938 plymouth 2 dr sedan with a junkyard gm 350 block that is now a 383 stroker backed by a jegs turbo 350 with a 2200 stall and a custom cut and balanced driveshaft attatched to a 1966 chevy c10 rearend." (deer in headlights and crickets chirping) man I miss the old parts guys

 

Looks like 67 Camaro to me, definitely not mustang or G body.

 

I just noticed what looks like 2 primary brake shoes on that side (looks like drivers side)
If that is the case there should be 1 primary front side and 1 secondary rear side.
In other words short brake lining to the front, long brake lining to the rear.