1936 Ford Coupe...barn find..value?

Well, the weather was finally cool enough down in South Texas for the rattle snakes to stay in their holes. Some of you may remember me mentioning that my inlaws had a family farm that possibly had some "old cars" on it. There is a barn (falling down shed) on the property that is very difficult to get to. I got to it yesterday. And there were some "old cars"...a couple model T's, several late-30s humpback tudors, a 39 ford pickup, an old nash and some other odds and ends. The 2 things that I was most excited to find were 2 '36 Ford 5-window coupes. Both are in buildable shape and one of them is quite nice. sitting on the chassis, no motor, fenders, hood, or grill. It still has some of the original headliner in it.....a racoon lives in it currently and the entire place was FILTHY. I talked to the relative that technically owns all of this stuff and it sounded like I might be able to talk him out of one of the 36 coupes.
I don't know much about the 36 coupes...curious if I can buy repop steel fenders hood grill etc? Has anyone ever built one of these without fenders or hood, or is it destined to be an ass-dragger? If anyone has done a 36 fenderless open engine..., I'd love to see pictures! Anyone have an idea on what a fair price would be on a 36 5-window body? Great shape only rust through was on the bottom edge of the decklid... doors are excellent. It wouldn't require much attention to the body after it was cleaned up....even the floor seemed mostly solid.
Any help on determining a value would be great. this guy thinks that all of this stuff is worth a ton, but has no idea....It sound like he is thinking in the 2-3K range.
Thanks in advance. I'll post some pics if any of them turn out....it was very dark and nasty in there. I'll let you know how it goes from here. Trying not to get my hopes up, this guy is VERY skeptical of everyone, but that sure as hell isn't going to stop me from trying!
John

 

So far, EVERYTHING you mentioned is desirable. Mostly the two '36 Fords and the '39 truck.

They're only worth what someone will pay. And '36 coupes are hard to find. Probably $3-8K each, depending on how much is really there and how rotten they are. Nice find.

Pics?

 

for 2-3 grand, JUMP ON IT!!!

you'll thank me later.



tred.

 

on the east coast, they'll bring more than 8 grand when marketed properly (gold chainers).


go get both of them.

 

Congrats on tracking that stuff down! I don't know anything as per a price, but wanted to add this....I can totally relate to your position. I have many relatives that as products of the Depression have been packrats for the last 70 years. There are many things that I'd love to get my hands on but they think that their crap is GOLD!!! And this is to a family member. They'd just as soon let it rot back to mother nature than sell it for something reasonable. I can see trying to rake a stranger over, but damn, this is blood I thought!

 

A nice original grille will cost $500-1000. You buy crappy repops for $200 usually. They do not look as good as original but will get you by.

Fenders: You can buy new glass fenders all day long. No one makes steel fenders. Coupe/cabriolet/roadster fenders are all the same. Sedan is different and won't work. Expect to pay $1000 and up for rear fenders and they will definietly need metal work at that price. You can probably find some front fenders that are pretty nice for $1000. Front fenders are made up of the the main piece, the horn grill piece and the inner fender panel. You'll need headlight stands underneath and fender braces.

NINETY NINE PERCENT OF THE TIME, 35/36 FORDS LOOK LIKE SHIT WITHOUT FENDERS. It's just a fact of life. The rear panel is not shaped like '34 and older. They are too long to look good. If you bob the back end, then you have a better chance at visual success. Zibo's looked pretty rad w/o fenders.

Orginal style hoods are not repopped, but Rootlieb sells any kind of street rod hood you could want. Don't worry, hoods are plentiful. If you're dilegent, you can find one under $100.

Running boards... usually in the $150-300 range.

If the floors are all there, and it's not too rusty, then $2000-3000 is a good price for a 5 window... get the checkbook ready.

Any interior? Dash? Window regulators? Decklid? If the rumble/decklid are missing, that's going to be $500 and up too.

 

The value guide says a tad over $3,000 for a complete car in need of total restoration. That said, my friend wants $5,500 for the '35 5-window he has and it's an old stock car - doesn't have a hood, grille or fenders. But you can't find the damn things around here. I've never seen another one outside of the rods at car shows and this and the shell he has. The shell was another attempt at a stock car that never got finished - the body is cherry but missing a good 6" all the way around the bottom except the tail. That he wants $1500 for. I had a chance years ago - like 20 years ago now - to buy a '36 humpack 2dr for about $200 and I wish now I'd gotten it and stored it somewhere. (I was 14 if that, what did I know).

 

I bought a coupe for $800...that needs $2000 in patch panels... AND no rear fenders. I should have let it ride.

 

For that price you better jump on it. I missed a really good deal from Visor for more then that and it sounds like this one is as good. Keep us posted

 

I wanna go there!

 

MOST hiboy 35-40 Fords look like shit.

BUT there are some exceptions..

 

A few more fenderless.

 

i bought this 5 window 6 months ago for 6000 but it is reaaly great. the doors still line up and the fenders are great and the grille is to. there is typical rust below the trunk and in the trunk floor. I thought I got a deal.

 

I have a fenderless '36 Ford Roadster that was originally a 3w coupe. It was an old hot rod years ago and was sectioned in the rear 18-24 inches and channeled 8 inches with Duval windshield so it looks almost identical to a '33-34 roadster, but without suicide doors.


I really like them because they are roomy inside and you can fit comfortably.



I need a nice decklid if get any parts with these.

Tex

 

Thanks for all of the great info. If I'm able to pick it up, I'll probably have to just find some fenders. I'll keep you posted on how this progresses...
john

 

No no no no! ass draggers only anything else is just a waste, go on prove me wrong.

 

awesome find! if you need some help getting those out of there, let me know, id fight snakes and coons all day to see those!

 

Hey Buddy,

Just followed your link through and listened to Hucksters, Sound great well done love the idea of Eddie C & The Cramps having a love child..........Mr pp

 

Just one other thing While I was building and wrenching on my 40 ford Bob Drake had a brilliant range of products for 1936 cars Expensive without a doubt but topdog quality..........

 

Thanks Mr Poopypants, I appreciate it!

Bob Drake is a godsend.

Ok, I'll play. My 5 window and my Dad's 3 window.

 

36, not a coupe...

 

This sounds very cool post some pics of it

 

That's looking great Dooley!

 

Someone either was or is making repop rear fenders. I've got what I believe to be repop steel rear fenders on my 35 coupe (same as 36). There is no way that they were original 35/36 fenders unless they were NOS parts. They had the typical black protective paint on them (no primer) when I put them on. I don't know where they came from because they came with the car, but I'm thankful that I have them because the original ones I had were trashed!

 

If you can get a '36 5-window for $3000, that's a good deal nowadays. My dad paid $3500 for his back in 1973, of course it was a driveable barn-fresh original with only 8900 miles. After body work, repaint, and upholstery my dad kept it for 30 years and sold it in 2003 for $22,000. It's been sold twice since then, and rumor has it that the last guy paid $35,000 for it. And yes, you should keep the fenders on.

 

FYI '35 and '36 rear fenders are different (fronts too). '35 has a slight dip on the back peak and '36 has a slight arch to the back peak. Lots of guys don't know the difference.

If those fenders are not NOS Ford, they may be early repros (more like replacement). There was a company named something like Fulton, Folson, or whatever that made good looking fenders a few years after the cars were made. The easy way to tell the difference from Ford is that the replacements had elongated mounting holes where the Fords were round.

I've seen some for '32's and I'd bet they made them for other years too.

 

36 with 37 headlights grafted in. Just an idea for you to ponder.

 

Another ugly not ass-dragging '36 Ford. This thing is so "ugly" I can't stand it!!

 

alchemy,

Thanks for the clarification on that. I wondered about that after I posted that. I only assumed and shouldn't have. My mistake. That's how bad info gets out. None the less, if they were repoping or building replacements for the '35 they were probably doing it for 36. I agree the rest of the fenders are different as well. WAY different for that matter. So are the headlights for that matter. 35 had a longer stem and a 36 had a short stubby stem. That's neither hear nor there though...

We got REALLY lucky when we found our coupe. My Orthodontist from when I was a kid was a good friend of the family. Turned out he had perfectly restored a Model A Coupe, Roadster, Tudor Sedan, a 57 T-bird, A Corvair and something else and had started restoring a 1935 coupe. It was all there. Flathead and all. The frame, running gear, wheels, and main body were all restored professionally. Fenders, hood, doors, engine, etc. still needed restoring, but he was retiring and didn't have the energy. He sold us the whole deal for $1500!!!!!!!! We said we would pay $3500, but he refused and just wanted to get rid of it and was glad it was getting a good home. That was in 1991. Every now and then he asks about the car, but doesn't know that it's a rod now We don't have the heart to tell him. I'm sure he figured anyway.

 

'35 headlights are not as bulbous either compared to '36 and that includes the glass. Any '35 is greatly improved with '36 lights.