I got to mock up my engine tonight. I figured I'd share some pics with you guys. Hope you like them. Here's the specs on the motor: Started life as the stock 215 10.5:1 compression ratio 223 std bore, flat top pistons new rings, bearings, gaskets, guides, seals, etc sbc valves clifford cam ported/cc'd head balanced bottom end w/ ARP hardware Clifford intake and headers w/ Weber 38 carb NOS top end oiling kit (got oversized chromoly pushrods but they aren't long enough, I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping the stock ones hold up) Not sure what I'm going to do with the distributor yet. I could leave points in it and have it recurved or go with the Pertronix kit. Has anyone used that kit on the 6? What's the general consensus on Pertronix? Here's the pics: Here's a link to the photobucket album in case you want to check out the progress on the car: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v418/Pavement27/53 Ford Club Coupe/
That is really lookin' good ! Look up member GMC BUBBA here on the HAMB,he is the distributor Guru there has been high praise from everyone that has had him setup their disributors,if it were me I would have Him set up the curve and get His advice on the Pertronix.
the timing chain marks on those 216, 223 sixes, dont line up like some others. stright up and down from each other. dont they line up to the side, both cam gear and crank gear mark? like pointing dead right...do I make any since???
Thanks guys. I'm really stoked to get this thing in the car and running. Jeff, I will check that guy out and see what he can do for me. Vein, the header, intake and carb are from Clifford. Unfortunately the headers are going to hit the motor mounts so I'll have to figure out a new solution to that problem. Lanny, to be honest I don't remember. I know when I tried to get it running when I first got it last year I just made to marks to relate the gear to the pulley that made more sense to me. I have the manual with the procedure in it, I just have to find it! Haha
my 223 is really jealous of your 215. Looks great.. when you DO get it running. please send us feedback on the Clifford stuff!!! i'm wanting some of that too! xoxo
Looks really good! Had you considered adding a PCV system to help keep your new engine clean inside? By evacuating the water vapor which condenses as a byproduct of combustion and pulling out the airborn carbon and oil known as "blowby", the PCV system helps keeps the oil from becoming contaminated and forming sludge. Modern oils can't keep the engine clean on their own, even with frequent changes, but a properly functioning PCV system can really help.
Thanks for the compliments everyone. The one thing I can tell you before I even get it running is to do something else. This thing was EXPENSIVE!!! Yeah Eric....I hear what you're saying but where can I hide one so that it can't be seen? I really don't want to mess up the look of the motor.
you can say expensive again...the price of motor stuff has tripled since 1998. Btw the 1964 production 223 had a pcv system. It bolted onto the block in place of the road draft tube.
I think 10bucks info would allow you to add a PCV system without compromising the neatness of your engine. A PCV system can't be invisible, but using factory parts can allow it to be neat and functional. If you've ever opened up a pre-PCV engine and seen all the gook inside you'll be willing to compromise a little neatness on the outside for a while lot of cleanliness on the inside.
Yes, agree a PCV is the way to go. John put one on my 292 and blocked off the draft tube opening. Glad he did, it's neatly located near the back of the engine and in addition to what you said Eric (internal gook), eliminates the draft tube slobber.
10bucks, I think the 223s in '64s were only in the fullsized cars, I had a '64 Custom many years ago with one in it, and I think it was the last year for the 223s. They were replaced in '65 with 240s. I think Ford used the PCV system on some earlier years, maybe '62 & '63 but don't recollect exactly which year. If memory serves me, the Falcons, Comets & maybe some other midsized and compacts used the smaller 6 cylinder engines - 144, 170 & 200 cid. Ron
This might be a stupid question but does the headers fit on the opposite sides. if so you would just have to make an adapter for the alternator mount.
actually I was just looking at the clifford site..those headers are for a truck this is for the cars http://www.cliffordperformance.net/...de=CP&Product_Code=53-0030&Category_Code=F300
They are the truck headers. After talking to Larry at Clifford, we knew there was no way that the car headers were going to work so we figured we'd have a better shot at making the truck ones fit. They do fit better but they still don't fit. Larry at Clifford wanted me to try them because he knew of my background in road racing and fabrication and knew that my car was straight and previously unaltered. He said if I put them on my car and there was no easy way to make them work, he would just change the website to say they don't fit on the 52\53. So, they're all cut up now and I'm going to make them work. There is a lot of stuff going on in the engine bay on that side in these car (clutch bracket, shift linkage, steering box, etc), so I think I'm going to a hydraulic setup. On that note, does anyone know how much throw our clutches need so I can figure out what slave cylinder I need to get?
Check out this article,it may help with a few tips:www.fordmuscle.com/forums/transmission-articles/481776-hydraulic-clutch-cl***ic-ford.html
The one we got our PCV system from was a 64 F250 that had a 223. We got the carb and air cleaner to boot, plus the spin on attachment for the oil filter.
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