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OT Ebay auction - can this guy sue me?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rob Paul, Dec 15, 2005.

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  1. What he said...

    You did say "stock" '34 frame, but, that statement was made "to the best of your knowledge"...

    If it was built when you bought it, that's what you believed.

    Being cut and spliced doesn't make it "inoperable", either.
    95% of the HAMB would be walkin'...:D

    Tell the ****er to bite the pipe. It's a nice truck.
    All he has to do is work out the bugs.

    Otherwise, he could, always, build one, himself... or, probably not.



    JOE:cool:
     
  2. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    he already left you positive feedback, tell him to go take a flying leap...
     
  3. RocketDaemon
    Joined: Jul 4, 2001
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    you should sue him for being a *****
     
  4. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Sure, just when I get the pictures resized, the link to the auction comes up. I agree that the truck looks nice and the description is not misleading (from what I've heard and from what I've seen)

    I would like to hear from the other HAMBer who saw the truck and I would also like to know about the shop that has it, what kind of reputation they have and what kind of cars they build. I get the feeling the guy who bought it has never wrenched on an old car and the shop he brought it to knows that.

    I'm gonna say stick to your guns on this one. He's not gonna sue you from 2000 miles away unless he has an EXTREME stick up his *** about it. I wonder what he expected to get?
     
  5. tantara2001
    Joined: Aug 2, 2005
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    Beat the guy with a cam shaft.

    Can sone post a pic for us at worka nd can't get on eGay.
     
  6. breeder
    Joined: Jul 13, 2005
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    ill go find a hot pink neon and tradem even up.... what a ****in ****brick... i would kill [again] for a truck like that....
     
  7. plan9
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    agreed, i have baught or sold on ebay a total of 6 times... each time i did, the parts were located in southern california and from a person with high ratings.

    i dont like EBAY, even when EBAY went live i thought it was stupid.... it is just too easy to get ripped off.

    local swaps, word of mouth, listings in the paper/online, and the HAMB is where i get the majority of my car stuff.
     
  8. gasheat
    Joined: Nov 7, 2005
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    To answer your question, "can this guy sue me?", yes he can. Will he be successful - - - only a court will determine. You can sue anyone for anything. It takes money to defend yourself. If you want to prove you are right, get a good lawyer. I lived a different situation but being right in the eyes of the law does have a financial price. My advice, do whatever it takes to make this thing go away. May not be what others will tell you but they are not the ones living the drama everyday.
     
  9. endlssumr
    Joined: Oct 14, 2005
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    Shop that has it is pretty reputable shop. Has been spoken of here many times. Even some of the workers are hambers. Don't think that they would try to inflate or exaggerate on any work. When you take your car somewhere to get it worked on you pay their rate. More reputable the shop the more you pay typically. What I think the problem is, is that the new owner sounds like he is an older guy who wants something that is the rat rod look that was built in Boyds shop. The ad says "as is". That is what it is. I think it is a good starting point for a car but at the same time I see things done in ways that I would not do them. But then I have seen many cars that have things done in ways I would not do them. Don't get me wrong its by far not the worst car I have ever seen not the best either. But if any of us took our cars to someone for an inspection I am sure there would be things that they could pick apart. I don't think the ad after reading it and seeing the car in person is out of line. I do think it is described pretty close. I don't think the shops recommendations are inflated. Although I have not seen their list of to do's. I think the new owner took them the car and said fix everything and they gave him a price. I blame the new owner for not seeing the car first and doing an inspection. Hard to ***** sight unseen.
     
  10. He bought it. No matter what. You don't need a lawyer. You don't need to say anything more to him about it. If you want to refund, tell him to deliver it to you in the condition he picked it up and you'll refund, in exchange for a bill of sale and a release of liability.

    If he sues you, show up in court with a dozen copies of the eBay listing, p*** them out, and his lawyer will be asking the judge to drop the case, even before the judge asks you any questions. There isn't a judge in the whole wide world that don't know what "sold as is" means.

     
  11. 2-TONED
    Joined: Jan 31, 2005
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    i see this **** all the time. (it really pisses me off!)
    one guy buys something (he maybe dosent know much about it)
    he takes it over to some know it all major big mouth butchers somewhere & they cut it down as hard as they can, scaring the new owner something fierce. (NOT THAT THESE GUYS SAYING THIS TRUCK IS SO BAD ARE BUTCHERS. i dont know them they're probably good)

    ""ITS 'USUALLY YOUNG GUYS' THINKIN THEY KNOW SOMETHIN!"

    for example: i had a girl take a regular late model pickup to a mechanic to inspect it before she bought it.
    the wanna be mechanic must of been trying to impress her with all his BS on how this & that were shot on the truck & she did get scared!!!
    so i drove right back down to that shop, asked which mechanic looked at this truck & asked what he thought was all wrong with it.
    you could see this particular truck had never been apart, painted on or anything , a good tight truck.


    so i said OK muthafuker pull your everyday driver in here on the hoist & let me inspect it!
    he wouldnt so i went right out & layed under his POS & his tierods, ball joints were extremely "SHOT"
    his junk was worn out terrible.
    i asked him where he got off thinkin my truck was unsafe & he could drive his pile 20 miles into work everyday with the edges worn off the front tires & loose front parts?!

    ------------------- i send these people that get scared out to get a second opinion somewhere from an older more experienced person!





     
  12. Bill.S
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  13. You live in America - **** I could probably sue you for it because the story made me feel sad.

    It was sold on eBay and the condition described accurately. No warranty was given or implied. Buyer beware. Tell him to **** off.
     
  14. volken65
    Joined: Mar 14, 2003
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    This is definitely good advice...

    Dont get me wrong, I don't think you should just dont bend over for the guy. But you should cover your *** and try to resolve this.
     
  15. CHOPSHOP
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    Review your posting to see what you wrote and keep a copy. If you said AS IS then that is what they get. Buying on ebay can only REALLY be disputed if it is grossly misrepresented- like you say its a 38 ford and they guy buys it, ships it and finds its an 80 Chevy.
    If you described the ride to the best of your ability I wouldnt be too concerned.

    Plus, my guess is the shop owner was looking for some extra work- Nothing out there is perfect so he probably found stuff to be able to make a coupla bucks on and the guy freaked. Had a customer like that-couldnt understand why I charged him to out the car BACK together, because I 'Had to take it apart anyway to do the work'.
    Sometimes they just dont know what they get themselves into when bringing the ride to a shop...
     
  16. socal_wrench
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    He can sue you if he wants It doesn't mean he will win
    But if he wants to spend a bunch of money he will
    and tie you up for years in court.


    On the other hand if he doesn't want to pend a bunch of cash at a rod shop i doubt he will give a lawyer more than 10 grand to sue you.
     
  17. hatch
    Joined: Nov 20, 2001
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    Tell him walmart won't come to your house to pickup things you don't want anymore......and you won't arrange for the return of the truck. But you will cheerfully refund the money when the truck is delivered to your doorstep in the same condition he received it . Make and save a copy of the letter....and send a copy to him (registered/return receipt with signature.)
     
  18. unclescooby
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  19. unclescooby
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    If for some reason, the Attorney General's office felt like this guy had a legitimate complaint (they won't and they won't even review the case for several months), then you would have a prelimenary hearing to attempt to find resolution together before proceeding before an actual judge. There are still no lawyers at this point. Plus, he has to come to your state as his expense for this meeting.
    This thing isn't going to a judge. It's buyer beware. The law is clear. I have first hand experience. Your photos and description and his chance to inspect before buying are the only evidence you need unless your photos and description were false and I'm sure they aren't.
     
  20. TNsportster
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    yep. Don't sweat it. **** that guy.
     
  21. specialk
    Joined: Sep 28, 2005
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    Oops, FB, you need to check your latin. Ceteris Peribus means, "other things equal". Caveat Emptor is "buyer beware".
     
  22. theracedude
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    give me the guys phone # and i will call him and in a gentle manner and tell him that he should fu@k off and die. i am not a pro at this stuff but i did stay at a holiday inn last nite...
     
  23. repoguy
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    What's a srory?

    Isn't that a dress that women in India wear or something?
     
  24. repoman
    Joined: Jan 2, 2005
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    Sounds like something I went through a few years ago...

    I sold a 65 2+2 ragtop to a punk kid. I didn't want to do it. I tried to tell the kid and his parents to **** off.

    Me: "Have you ever owned an old car?"
    Wise*** punk: "Yes, I had a 61 Ford Falcon"
    He kept repeating this.

    Then his parents had me take the car to their mechanic for a once-over.

    Came back back with "The trans slips and a rebuild is $500, how about $500 off the price. There's a tear in the top, the top is $900, how about another $900 off, so $1400 off your asking price?"

    I said no, "Go buy your kid a Honda."

    They called back an hour later and offered only $500 less. I guess jr had a temper tantrum that he might not get his cool car. I said OK if I keep the rally wheels and new tires, replacing them with steelies and fresh radials. They loved this idea.

    They had me drop it off at the top shop to make sure jr didn't get a single raindrop on his skirt.

    6 months later a friend of mine found it in a junkyard. The nose had been wrapped around something immovable.


    I'm betting this is for some spoiled little *****.
     
  25. Lionheart
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    Don't mean ****, but for the record, the 2+2 Mustang is a Fastback only, NO convertibles were 2+2's.
    What does your story have to do with this post ? :confused:
     
  26. repoman
    Joined: Jan 2, 2005
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    I was proposing the jerk may have bought the car for some kid, hence the inspection, lack of questions, and knowledge.

    And the car I sold was a Pontiac. Look it up.
     
  27. Lionheart
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    Why is everyone else jurks and stupid kids, and you, NOT explaining what you sold, make you something better ?

    This attatude of, i'm right, everyone else is wrong ****, shows your arrogance.
     
  28. chitbox dodge
    Joined: Apr 25, 2005
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    LOL, my rearend isnt centered and it came from the factory that way. Most all chryslers either had the rear off center or the motor off center in the frame. It to is missing more than just a couple of brake line retaining clips too. If i could get someone to pay me even just $2000, i would fix them right away.

    Sounds to me that youre dealing with a guy who knows nothing about cars except where the gas goes and "D" makes it go foward. Really he doesnt deserve a truck like that. Let him sue he won't win a thing and youll have the satisfaction of knowing that hes about to take a reaming from a shop whos especially adept at padding bills.
     
  29. TrannyMan
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    Any Updates?

    The only thing I would worry about is the frame. If it is not safe that might **** for someone.
    Else wise I would also tell him to stick it. Apoligize that he isn't happy with his new toy and try to help him sell it. IMO you didn't do any thing wrong.

    A LOT of people want the bad *** Jesse James look but when they find out their kidneys are taking a beating and there's no creature comforts, they go crying to momma.

    By the way...That's a bad *** looking truck.
     
  30. 56wagon
    Joined: Aug 26, 2005
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    Nothing worse than a crybaby ***hole buyer on ebay, they want new for used price. Make copies of all corispondence and the auction page itself. If there is a complaint filed with ebay RESPOND!!!! Tell your side and have the paperwork to prove it. If he leaves you a negitive feedback, write a response. I've sold thousands of items on ebay and the hardest part is keeping the ***holes happy so you have a good feedback rating. Good luck
     
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