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1952-59 Ford is this supposed to be like this?

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by mr. h, Sep 23, 2010.

  1. mr. h
    Joined: Jul 24, 2007
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    got my engine pulled last night and heres what i found
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  2. genosslk
    Joined: Feb 6, 2009
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    Looks like you pulled a chevy with a front sump. Looks like someone was in a bit of a hurry to get it installed. Looks easy to fix and make right, just make sure the welds in the crossmember are done correctly. Never know what you'll find with someone elses work when you buy an old car. If you found this.... look the car over for more "interesting" areas of construction just to be safe.
     
  3. mr. h
    Joined: Jul 24, 2007
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    yea the transmission mount was just as hokey, so the 302 i bought has a front sump pan on it, i bought a dual sump pan to put on but from the looks of this i may not need the dual sump pan?
     
  4. Chalupa55
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    from So-Cal

    At least it looks like they attempted to box it in. lol
     
  5. mr. h
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    it looks worse in person trust me, and look at those engine mounts, lol. ive got some work ahead of me.
     
  6. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    Go back to your original post on 8/28 and read the post from me on 8/30 6:44PM before you chop off those mounts pick up the ones I listed and try them, they use the bolt thru style mount like the Chevy,you might get lucky.If you decide to get rid of the stuff that is on your crossmember there is good way out and EZ to work with click on this: www.speedwaymotors.com put these numbers in search: 135-3294,720-9314,916-28903,910-18017 this will make it work the right way and you will use the dual sump pan with no suspension mods.
     
  7. missysdad1
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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    Take a look at my Victoria build thread. You'll see the same thing on my car. There's no way to get a Chevy in there w/o cutting the front crossmember like that. Even the early Chevy II pan needs clearance in that area if the engine is to sit as low as is desired.

    The alternative was to modify the steering drag link and use a rear sump pan...which has it's drawbacks, too.

    Looks like the crossmember was reinforced and the welds look okay, so I'd just leave it alone.

    The motor mounts are a bit crudely finished, but look to be strong enough. Keep in mind that not every car is built as neatly as the pro-built street rods in the magazines.

    Workmanship standards have risen to very high standards since I was a kid, and I think we all have come to have very high expectations...sometimes perhaps too high.

    While the installation in your car might not be as pretty as some, it looks to be strong and safe. If you were going to reinstall the Chevy, it looks like it could be cleaned up cosmetically and used again without major changes.

    :)
     
  8. sickboymesa
    Joined: Feb 18, 2009
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    i like the reamed hole on the left motor mount thats quality. Glad to hear your putting a ford in.
     
  9. streetdreams
    Joined: Mar 27, 2008
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    Replace that brake line also.
     
  10. Retro Jim
    Joined: May 27, 2007
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    I am just real curious on what was holding that engine in place ! I see the frame mounts that are on the steel spacer but is it just those two tiny tack welds that is holding the mounts to the spacers ?

    Personally , I would remove all that really bad engineering and weld a plate to strengthen the frame first . Then get the tube style mounting kit and either bolt or weld in place then the Ford small block will fit right in there just right !

    Also do what someone else posted and replace that bent up brake line that is by the bell housing . Also it might be easier to install the engine and trans together . Installing a trans and hooking it up on the ground really ****s ! Done that one too many times before I learned to install them together unless you have a 4 wheel dive but that's another nasty mess !
    Just my opinion .

    Jim
     

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