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1952-59 Ford 53 rebuild

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by mr. h, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. mr. h
    Joined: Jul 24, 2007
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    i figured id just start a post and keep posting here on my 53 customline rebuild. if you dont know im removing a chevy 350 and putting in a 302. the further i get into this car the more i have to do. i decided to rip out all of the wire cause it has been hacked into so much over the years about to order my rebel wiring harness. also took my gauges out and they are all broken so i get to replace all of that as well.
     
  2. freemane1
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    Good luck. I wouldn't want all of that to look foward to.
     
  3. Retro Jim
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    I am really glad that you are going with the Ford 302 !
    They really hacked that frame up to make the wrong engine fit and the motor mounts are something to see !
    What engine mount system are you going with ? Are you putting back to original or are you going with a universal bar type engine mount system that street rodders use a lot ?

    Jim
     
  4. mr. h
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    so i went and picked up my maverick rear end today. the guy told me he had one with 3.00 gears waiting but when i got there he only had 2.79 gears. i got to looking around and found a third member sitting around. i counted the gears and found one that had 3.25 gears. anyway i have to put it all together and i need to put a drain plug in it since this was one of the sealed 8 inch rears. which is a good thing since someone punched a hole in the case to drain it. anyway if any one needs an 8 inch rear with 2.79's this guy had a ton of it. oh and jim im going to go with an original type mount.
     
  5. mr. h
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    got the maverick rear end all taken apart and started cleaning it up it in pretty good shape, i put in a drain and fill plug. my question is this, will the brakes from my stock rear end fit on this maverick rear end. the maverick brakes are a mess like missing cables and my stock brakes have recently been rebuilt.
     
  6. Retro Jim
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    They should be the same backing plates . About the only difference in them were the 4 or 5 lug axles . When you order the brakes and drums get the widest you can find . I think they are 2.25" or 2.5" . Remember to get the gasket between the backing plate and axle tubes .
    BTW the 3.25 is a nice gear all around gear set .

    Jim
     
  7. mr. h
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    thanks jim, yes im excited about those gears, i had the stock 4.11's which were a pain in the ***.
     
  8. dwaynerz
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    i really like the 302 in my 53. keep a ford in a ford if at all possible. mine has been subframed from fatman, and i like it. not sure what a "stock" 53 drives like so i have no comparison. but i do like the thumbs up and all the what yr is it questions. maybe over time i will tire of the same ol questions, but for now im liking it. maybe i can even turn a ricer to a rodder. it could happen.
    btw, i have a 4 spd aod with a high gear in the rearend, prolly a 3.o or less, but my wife and i turned over 27 mpg between st louis and indy at 65 with ac on. whats not to love about that? wifes v6 nitro doesnt do that
     
  9. mr. h
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  10. JeffB2
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    Now would be a good time to do the Mustang dual master cyl swap,EZ to do for less than $50 and everything EZ to get at.Sure makes it look more sano around the firewall,good work!
     
  11. Retro Jim
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    Damn , that's a different car !
    Looks good and that is some very good advice from Jeff . It's sooooo...much easier to do when that engine is out of the way . It's also a very good time to do any front end work that might need to be done like bushings and any other front end parts that are old and worn out .
    Just a thought !

    Jim
     
  12. mr. h
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    thanks for the advice, i am going to be going through all the parts and checking everything
     
  13. mr. h
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  14. old lady's mad
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    damn that was a mess under the hood. nice clean looking job so far, keep us updated
     
  15. Rayj53
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    WoW... I'm inspired.. Good job.
     
  16. mr. h
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    thanks for the kind words fellas
     
  17. mr. h
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    ok does anyone know of a waterpump pulley that will fit a 302 thats really shallow? im running a gm 1 wire and the waterpump pulley sits way too far back, ive looked on summit and they have them but holy **** they are proud of them. just didnt know it there was a year make and model of a stock pully that is shallow
     
  18. JeffB2
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    You probably won't find one that will line up,click on this post I put up and you will see why. www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303600 If what you came up with was a March pulley set from Summit they are pricey,you might Google CVF Racing and see what they have to offer real nice product for less $$.They also sell on ebay,plug this number in search: 120609265362 this will work and look great with your valve covers,when using a GM alternator you will have to fab up a spacer to line up but that's not a big deal.
     
  19. gregk
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    Mr. H

    I went thru a similar problem. I wanted to run a single belt. So I was told that an early comet, mustang, etc with no power add on's would work. I gave up real quick looking for them.
    I went with the pulleys that Jeff had noted in his response. The crank pulley is double belt and works fine but i had to make a spacer for the fan. I am using a singel wire ford alternator but that shouldn't make any difference.


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  20. JeffB2
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    Just a note on these pulley sets,in greg's pic the inner groove on the crank would drive power steering,outer drives fan and alternator.When using a GM alternator it helps to have a 2 groove water pump pulley like the set I recommended in my above post.Greg,the aluminum fan you are using has had cases of the blades coming loose and raising havoc,please check them on a regular basis for looseness if you need to replace the Flex-A-Lite Stainless is a better and stronger option and usually under $45.
     
  21. gregk
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    Jeff

    i have also read about these fans comming apart at high rpm. The info that came with the fan had a disclaimer saying not to run them over 8000rpm. The only thing I run up to 8 grand these days is my die grinder and my motorcycle!!
     
  22. JeffB2
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    Some of these companies sure come up with creative ways to cover their ****,LOL, the ones I read about were daily drivers,don't think they turned 8 grand.With so much outsourcing these days it never hurts to be proactive while doing maintainence and checking things out.
     
  23. mr. h
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    well im about ready to burn it all down. ive hit the wall, the pullies now line up and i got the engine and trans put together and the rear end in. i sat the engine and trans in the car just to see where it all sits and im going to have to make some spacer blocks under my engine mounts so it will sit high enough. just seems like 1 step forward three steps back.
     
  24. Retro Jim
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    Isn't hot rodding so much FUN ! :eek:
    How far do you have to come up ? What is the problem area that you are having to have to add spacers to get the engine up some more ?

    Jim
     
  25. mr. h
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    i need to raise up about 3 inches, if it sits where the engine mounts should sit my waterpump sits way too low, its do able just another pain in my ***.
     
  26. missysdad1
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    Okay. This is not the end of the world. Take a deep breath and call the manufacturer of the motor mounts. Tell them your problem and ask them for their advice. Chances are it's something simple...like the wrong parts for your application.
    Good luck, and let us know how it works out, okay.
     
  27. 19customline54
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    hey brother. I don't know how much your motor mounts were "redesigned" in order to get that sbc in there. but I just heard that you can use galexy mounts with 1 inch spacers, and should bolt right up to a 302. but do some research b4 you proceed with this. my info pertained to a 1954 ford. and that was with a stock setup. like I said, it was all word of mouth to me, so do a little research first. I'm sure someone here knows a bit more than I do about it.
     
  28. JeffB2
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    The 1949-53 Fords had different front end crossmembers the mounts on a '54-56 are night and day different so the Galaxy mounts are a no-go, also the late model '84 and up Mustang & Mark VII mounts eliminate the need for the 1" spacers
     
  29. I'm a little confused by your statement " waterpump sits way to low" . Got any pics of it sitting in place in the engine bay ?
     
  30. Retro Jim
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    If it's just a water pump problem , why not use an electric water pump . That might be all you need to do . If not different motor mounts should fix the problem .

    Jim
     

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