Sorry for having to ask so many questions but when ya dont know ya just dont know! 1. I see everyone is putting a AOD in there car...is this an Automatic Over drive? Not sure if that is what it stands for. And also is this a particular size transmission or are there different ones that will fit a 302HO? I am in the process of trying to find a engine and ****** to swap into my car and I know I want a 302 HO but am having trouble figuring out what years it needs to donated from and what transmission it will need to have for a simpler transplant. I know i want an automatic. 2. I have read on here that people have upgraded there front springs with some from another vehicle but i can find what vehicle that is...I think it was from a Vinivan? 3. I read someplace that you can get the rear springs new from JC Whitney but i called them and they say they dont sell any for a 55 mainline. anyone know where i can get these? Mine are worn out. thanks
1. Yes it stands for Automatic Over Drive. It will bolt to any 302. A C4 is another option that will bolt up to a 302. If you go AOD make sure it is not an AODE (electrical). Jeff B has a whole summary on how to do the swap and what is needed. 2. Use the for Aerostar Spring. 3. Not sure. lol
Thanks A.P. I have a hard time pulling up old posts in the search...I never know exactly how to word it so it comes up it aways tells me it found nothing! LoL
does anyone know what years i can pull the engine ****** out of that doesnt have electrical AOD? And also what year of an aerostar i need the springs from thanks for you guys help
Moog Aerostar springs: #CC850 I'll leave the rest to the Ford experts. I'm still learning about them... I do know how to tell a car with a Chevy engine from a car with a Ford engine: The car in the lead has the Chevy!
The best site for info on the Ford AOD is www.clickclickracing.com do a lot of reading and you will learn a lot,the best AOD is from 1988-93 it is non-computer and has all the later upgrades that eliminate problems from the earlier years.If you are going to run a Carb on your 302 you will want the Lokar TV cable and bracket kit,TV cable adjustment on an AOD is critical.The Ford Aerostar springs for the front are Autozone part# Duralast FCS 850V at O'Reillys look for MOOG CC850.For the rear springs try using the search box here unless someone remembers the link or the JC Whitney part number.
1) If you're set an a 302HO, keep your eyes out for a late-model Mustang (86-93 GT) drivetrain. You can convert the engine over to a carb, but definitely don't forget about the TV controller for the trans, it won't work with out. As stated as above, the beauty of the early, non-computer controlled (AOD vs. AOD-E) trans is it only needs to know throttle position to operate. 2) Aerostar front coils, as stated above 3) The PN for the J. C. Whitney springs is in this thread: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=17753
Thanks Guys I appreciate all the help. I am getting these things one at a time when i have the money, Right now im waiting on my tires and rims to come in and a few other things then i can start getting all the big suspension parts,engine and ******..Whew! Lots and lots of money!
st louis spring can whip you up a set of rear leaf springs. http://www.saintlouisspring.com/ a buddy had a set made up for his 35 chevy master, and i think the price was about 150 for the pair. not a bad price and brand dam new to boot. was ready to order a set for my 35 chebbie master, but somebody made an offer i couldnt really refuse and off it went to a new home.
Thanks dwaynerz I will use them when i order my springs, Thats cheaper than jcwhitney and jcwhitney still tells me the part number that i got from the thread that mjlangley provided will not fit my car so maybe this place will be able to help me with them. thanks for the link and info.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/replacement-leaf-springs-for-cars/p2005965.jcwx?filterid=c11298d614y1955j1 i put them in my car , there web site is dificult to navigate and there sales people are un skilled or trained. dont trust anything they say. but they do have the best price, and free shipping often.
Okay, according to my Ford parts book the rear springs - 5 leaf -are same for years '54-'56 except wagons and sedan deliveries. Ford # is B6A-5560-A. So the Whitney number should good for a Mainline, Customline, or Victoria, '54-'56 despite what the kids there tell ya. I got mine from them just the other day for my Vicky, they're still lying on the garage floor so if you need any dimensions off 'em, let me know. BTW, I was somewhat but pleasantly surprised when they arrived to see "Made in USA" painted on them! Will wonders never cease?
Thanks, Yeah I figured maybe they just didnt know that they will fit more than one car. I told the guy other people have bought them from whitney but he just said "well they bought the wrong part" lol
If you decide to use the AOD on a carbureted engine, Phoenix Transmission sells a linkage adapter to get the correct geometry of the throttle valve cable/accelerator cable. I bought one, I think $19.95. Makes adjustment super simple and gets the throttle valve pressure correct. AOD's won't last long with the pressure out of adjustment.
i just check phoenix's adapter and they are $30+change. correct me if i'm wrong but doesnt the linkage adapter come with Lokar's AOD Tv cable kit? it's been years since i've installed mine and can't remember..
The adapter that Phoenix sells bolts to the carb linkage and makes sure that the tv cable and the throttle cable travel the same distance. Gets the geometry right. Don't think Lokar provides this.
I have the Lokar TV cable kit and Lokar throttle cable and I am using a Carter AFB 9635 (same as Edelbrock 1406) and did not need the adapter.
Haven't used the Carter/Edelbrock carb with an AOD, but I have used the Holley. After frying an AOD in just a few miles, the adapter was pretty cheap insurance for me. I am using the Lokar cable with the Phoenix linkage adapter and haven't had any problems with this set up.
I'm wondering if I went with a Standard transmission with a floor shifter would that be an easier transplant than an AOD since I'm going to go with the 302? would it bolt up to the clutch pedal and all or would i need different linkages?
Your 55's linkage won't play nice with the later 302 and a 3 speed,what you would end up with is using your present pedals and running a hydraulic cluch there is a good pictorial and text on doing this at www.fordmuscle.com in Tech Archives.With a C4 or AOD you get a TV cable or kickdown cable add a shifter and you are good to go.
FYI: Distributor rotation is counterclockwise. The firing order for a 289/302 is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8, but the firing order for a 302 HO is the same as a 351W 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8. Just trying to save some grief down the line. When changing spark plug wires I recommend doing one at a time so you dont get them out of order, and if the distributor has been moved you wont go crazy 'knowing' you have them in the right position.
Thanks for the info jeff I'll just stick with the AOD Thanks tnrotter that helps cause I'm sure I would have been asking that question when the engine wouldnt start! LoL
Fords idea with the firing order change was from a performance standpoint,it puts less stress on the front main bearings.It is not uncommon to swap 351W cams into early 289-302's for the same reason.
Many pardons for changing gears with this string and I don't want to upset the balance of nature, but has anyone installed an AOD with a 272 Y-block? I have seen an adaptor plate for this application, but I am curious if anyone has had any success with the swap.
The adapter kits have been around for awhile www.transmissioncenter.com has had them for several years,but for the price of the kit you could swap in a good used 5.0 and AOD easier.There may be some of the guys on www.y-blocksforever.com that have done the swap.
I've done the swap with a 312/AOD using the Bentsen's adapter. It is a really nice kit, and everything fits very well. It is, however, really pricey. Has the adapter plate, flexplate, flexplate adapter, and high torque starter. Engineered very nicely.
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