but its also supposed to be traditionally styled... "The Jalopy Journal was formed just a few years later to spread the gospel of traditional Hot Rods and Kustoms" not sure why i bother
Merc-O-Madness,you like this better?? Now does the previous Avatar qualify as about 90% HAMB friendly? (the other 10% being the Foose wheels) that being the case since disc brakes came out in the late 60's on American cars they are not HAMB friendly either.Open for discussion: Let's hear members opinions on what can be "traditional" and what should be allowed.So should we ban plug wires larger than 7mm? electronic ignitions? Dual master cylinders? air bag suspensions,Etc,remember prior to 1965 these were not available.
I was thinking about this issue this morning. What kind of wheels are "HAMB" friendly. If I put 5 spoke torque thrust style wheels on my 56 am I not welcome anymore? What if they are 17" to clear my 12.5" disk brakes? Can I put a stereo in my car? Does my interior have to be a certain style? Obviously the site caters to a certain type/style of the hot rod era and I can dig that but is there a hard line in the sand here or can we appreciate a nice car even though the wheels my not be the right style? My personal taste is to upgrade everything so I know at some point my car won't be HAMB friendly. This is the best section of the HAMB IMO so when my car becomes unHAMBly I will be here anyways. I just won't post pictures. lol
Period correct and traditional, and traditionally styled are two really different things. My car is traditionally styled, its got the right look for the period. The only things that are modernized (short of the cheesy tape deck that was installed by a PO) are hidden. Building everything with a modern mind-set (like that '56 victoria that was posted a week or so ago), makes a pro-touring car. If that is what you dig, than great, but calling it a traditional would be a big stretch. I don't care what anyone calls something, but merc-o-madness has a point. But this type of discussion has been beaten to death on the HAMB before (and its always a stupid thread).
ok let billet wheels slide whats next s-10s...Its getting harder and harder to get the motivation to go on this website. Im not asking everybody to use period perfect parts, as long as they're somewhat hidden or not crazy noticeable. Everybodys welcome to have their own taste and style but i thought this board is meant for a certain period and style of custom cars and hot rods.
theres tons of better examples to represent our little group of 52-59 fordswww.jalopyjournal.com ands thats just a small handfull, and the sad thing is i bet more people here can appreciate the streetrod over the cars that i just posted.
I thought the reason the social groups were started was to have a place for people that like something other than strictly traditional cars. None of our cars were even thought of in the early years of traditional rodding. My 56 is basically what I would have driven in the late 60's. It's true that is has a 302 & 5 speed and disc brakes but it looks like it could have been built in the 60's. Hot rodding has always been taking an old car and stuffing it with newer engines & trans' to make it go faster. If someone wants to stick to tradition, make sure the cops h***le you for being to loud, too low or just too young (I don't think many of us here have to worry about the last one). I sure don't miss those things. Me, I want my car to look old but drive newer. That's why I don't post about it on the main board.
It's all a matter of personal preference, and I tend to prefer the traditional side. While my '56 has power brake upgrade (kept the drums), radial tires, electronic ignition/alternator, & mod'd to run no-lead, nearly everything else is old-style. The look and feel I was after and hopefully have achieved is early 60s style, such as a kid would have done to it as 2nd or 3rd owner of the car. Not at all a fan of hydraulics, pnuematics, speakers louder than the engine, or donk -ified older vehicles. Traditional to the period the car was built is okay with me, i.e. mid/late 60s/early 70s muscle cars with L60s on back & G70s on front, Cragars, 8 tracks, leaf spring shackles, etc. is fine but maybe not so keen on a '58 Plymouth! IMO, if I want A/C, automatic, disc brakes, etc. I'll hop into my F150...
IMO, if I want A/C, automatic, disc brakes, etc..... thats what i have in my 53. add tilt wheel, stereo, sealt belts blah blah blah. while its nice to know there are some trying/wanting to keep tradition alive, i say good on them. but when i need a part for my 302 on a saturday night/sunday afternoon somewhere near bfe, i wont be stranded along with my family. like stig said.. I want my car to look old but drive newer
Keep it coming ! This is the kind of input we need to see where everybody is at,I think most of agree that upgrades for safety and comfort are not a bad thing.Compare pictures of our Group members cars to the photos above and most of us are pretty tame in comparison.Look at how many posts come up about adding a T-5's to older cars or if you are a 66 year "old fart" like me with a bum knee you love your AOD,love my A/C too, it's from the mid 60's no fancy Japanese compressor either.
like i said, modern drive trains, aod, disk brakes is not what im really upset about, its all about how the car is STYLED, mild, radical all good, just not modern STYLING. the whole reason this started was because of the previous car in the avatar had goofy modern style wheels. And in my opinion, wheels and tires are a major what sets the kinda car it is and can make or break a car. If you take a traditional style g***er and put 32 inch billet wheels with low profile tires would you be able to look at the same? yes its an easy fix but at the moment you cant cl***ify it the same.
That has been one of my pet peeves,anything bigger than a 16" wheel and a tire with barely a sidewall "just ain't right" on cars of our vintage.The previous Avatar would have looked great with 15" tires and chrome wheels & moons.However the 5 spoke style that was on the earlier '56 Ford Avatar was out in force at the Redneck Rumble http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735092 as mentioned above cars that swap to larger disc brakes can't use early wheels so would these be considered an update on the old Cragar style?
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