Ok, one more of these threads I am installing universal stuff, rubber, unbeaded. Plan to just 3m weatherstrip it in. As in this method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDBojIza-TA Here is what I am using Can someone tell me: 56 Sedan Front door where does the channel attach (or does it) down inside the door. I see a bracket with a screw in it, does the channel screw in there? Below are a couple of pics looking down inside the door Quarter windows I dont know how far down the channel should go inside the car on each side of the quarter window. I also dont know if it should be attached somewhere. I can see where the factory clip holes are, but there are no clip holes once your down inside the car. So I dont know if I should just attach the new channel where the the clip holes are and let the rest hang free, or what? So I guess the question is, when you install new stuff, do you just bend and clip it in and call it a day, or is there some form of attaching it inside the door and qtr area, even when using the stuff that has clips installed? Here are a couple of pics inside the quarter window area. Rear of quarter window door side of quarter window
On the front door the original molding has this metal bracket riveted to it. You need to attach it to your new channel. When referring to the moldings and such they call that side of the door the "lock" side for obvious reasons but it is a term that might come up when ordering parts etc. That little tab on the above bracket slides into the bracket above where my red arrow is pointing in the next picture. The arrow points to the bolt that holds the bottom of the metal bracket in place. P.S. You did a great job getting pictures in the door. I could never get a clear shot with my camera. The quarter windows have a similar bracket on them but I can't seem to find a picture of mine.
Thanks Jay that makes great sense. I thought something may be missing. I dont have that piece. It probably was lost between the 2 ****py shops that had my car. Hopefully I can locate some.
Anyone have any ideas on the quarter windows? Is there a bracket on both sides, or just one side of the qtr windows? Going to look in the book to see if I can find anything.
Looks like on the door side of the quarter channel it just screws in. There is a lone screw sitting there in mine. On the trunk side of the channel I see there is a piece or bracket of some kind that is attached to the channel. Looks like a specialty bolt and nut of sorts that goes through the hole on the inside (I always wondered what that hole was for) to allow for attaching and adjusting it. I dont have any of that stuff.
No wonder you're having so much trouble! Ya' gots to have all the pieces for the window to be adjusted properly so it works smoothly, seals properly and doesn't rattle. The good news is that these little critters shouldn't be too hard to find.
Maybe this guy has what you are missing,might be worth a phone call? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=43014
There is a channel that needs to be fixed to front edge of the quarter window channel. I glued this channel to the bailey channel bent the bailey channel around the gl*** and fixed the rear channel to the body and let the bailey channel fit where it hits. Glued that too. There is a little filler piece that supports the bailey channel where bends at the rear before it connects to the rear bracket. The whole thing with the quarter is a pain. I bought unbent bailey channel with the clips in, but there were too many variables and I removed the clips, put a bit of glue on the back of the bailey channel and then pop riveted the bailey in about where the clips should fit. I believe Tee-Bird Products sells the bailey channel prebent. I used Sikkaflex adhesive sealant as the glue. Probably one of the most finnicky jobs in my resto so far. If you don't have preinstalled clips in your bailey channel, the best advice I can give you is that both vertical runs of the bailey channel end up on the same horizontal line though obviously the front is much longer. You will find it much easier if you pull the bailey channels intact out of a donor car. That will make everything easier. Sorry about war and peace!!
This is a good time to consider power windows,here's how and it's budget friendly! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLsyM2Crhew
I bought pre-bent ones from Teebird products. The first set was way off. They tried their test car and I guess they didn't even fit that. They re-did their jig/dies and sent me a new set about 6 weeks later (when I called they offered to return or make me a new set and were clear that it would not be soon. I was in no rush so I waited). The second set is a lot better but still not as nice as I would like. That being said they are the only pre-bent ones I have found for my 56. Everyone else sells them straight and bending them takes some black magic. Good luck with yours... IMO TeeBird had very good service and I was happy with them. One thing extra is their channels have flat spots in the chrome where the channel goes into the body. If they could just get the bends better it would be great.
As far as power windows go. I used Nu-Relics. My regulators were rusted beyond repair so I went power for that reason. The Nu-Relics bolt in and were super easy to get in. They are expensive as heck though. The window regulators are not bad but the switches and harnesses are the biggest cost. I have a couple threads here somewhere on both the channels and the power windows. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=21385
Here is an interesting way to setup the power windows and keep the factory look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMBzZBz7w-w
Found a donor for the parts I need, should get them ordered today. There are 2 brackets that go on the quarter windows (2 per side) as well. They are the 2 shortest brackets in the pics. Decided to get the lift channels from him also since mine are banged up and 3 of 4 are not straight. All starting to make sense when you have all the parts
****. Thanks Jay. There was a guy on the ford barn telling me also that there was a piece in the bend that I didnt have. I asked the guy I bought the other parts from and he said he didnt see it in the book (I guess he doesnt recall seeing them when he pulled the parts either) so I thought maybe it was not specific to my car. I guess it is. Thanks for the picture now I can email it to him, he should have it and probably didnt know what it was.
ive been working on my rear window project for way to long. i had a buddy help me bend up the beaded channel that knew what he was doing. then i used universal division bars from midwest early for and mad them fit my car by transferring the brackets. heres some of the pics i took <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://s200.photobucket.com/user/old_ladys_mad/embed/slideshow/55%20ford%20fairlane/window%20chanel%20project"></iframe>
Here this might be better.. http://s200.photobucket.com/user/ol...deshow/55 ford fairlane/window chanel project
So, do you think you will put these v shaped pieces on the qtr windows? I found a set for $50 shipped, debating whether to get them or not, as like you, I keep looking at it and cant decide why/if they have to be there. Not that ford didnt know what they were doing, but if I glued the channel in and installed the interior garnish quarter window trim, wouldnt it hold everything in place? How was that v shapped piece held in place on the car? Screwed? Riveted? Glued?
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