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1952-59 Ford Have you replaced your wiper motor?

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by k5mog, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. k5mog
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    I'm wanting to replace the vacuum motor with an electric one. I'm wondering what others might have used. Hoping someone has found a junk yard replacement. Not interested in spending 200+ for an after market kit.
    Ralph
     
  2. old lady's mad
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    i have . 129 free shipping for a newport 12v unit. they also have the 6v. direct bolt in unit. ebay ill have to think which store i got it from.
     
  3. Mark T
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    I bought a used wiper motor from a '57 or '58 Ford for about $40, there supposed to just about bolt in.

    I haven't tried it yet.

    '57 Chevy is supposed to bolt right in also.
     
  4. k5mog
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    Thanks Mark, I think you have pointed me in the right direction. I can get a rebuilt motor for less then fifty dollars. I'll give it a try.
     
  5. k5mog
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    Turned out a replacement motor form jc whitney, was not available still looking.
     
  6. Mark T
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    I wrote '57-'58 but now that I think about it I think its a '58-'61 wiper motor that I bought. I believe that's the first years that Ford used electric wipers in passenger cars.
     
  7. Paul2748
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    I got Newports in three of my cars. All work great. Alk you do is hook the unit to the stock mount and arms and run the wires. They have an adapter for the switch so you use the stock switch.
     
  8. rick55
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    Im with you Paul. I have one in my Mainline ute and have fitted one in my 55 Tudor. They must have changed them from when I fitted my first one about 15 years ago. The new model was a B@#$%$#^d to get in even with the dash out.
    Still the same great quality.
     
  9. ctfortner
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    used Newport also in my 56. bolt in, worked well. Havent driven car yet much so cant attest to durability or performance, but seems like it will be good.
     
  10. fordsbyjay
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    I used the Newport as well. Bolts right in you just need to be 2' tall to get in there.
     
  11. Paul2748
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    If your going to replace the wiper motor, the best way is to remove the front seat. Pays off in the long run. Give yourself plenty of room to work.
     
  12. riskybiz
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    I used Newport in both of my 54's and in my 55 Ford. Easy to install and they work great. You do need to get the switch extension for use in a 55. In my 54 & 55 Vicky I use a time delay switch just for a little more control.
     
  13. k5mog
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    I'm sure Newport Engineering has a good product, but that's not what I want to do. Wiper motors are 10.00 all day long at the pull-a-part. I was hoping someone had went that route and I could get the benefit of their experience. An isolating motor seems to be my biggest problem. So far the only ones I can find are for a rear wiper off an suv. They have a couple of drawbacks, too long of a shaft and most are single speed. I don't have any wiper arms at the moment, but looking at the locations of the shafts, I don't think a rotating motor will work. The crank arms can be adapted easily, but the wiper arms seem to located to close to the outside. I'm going to pickup arms and wipers tomorrow and find out for sure.
    Ralph
     
  14. JeffB2
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    Do a search in our archives,we did have a member that converted the one off an SUV's rear wiper and he was pleased with the results,I cannot remember the make of the SUV as it was probably a couple of years ago.
     
  15. Jeff , that was me ! I'm still a member here just don't post so often . The wiper motor I used was a 2 speed self park out of the rear door of a mid 90s Toyota 4Runner .
     
  16. fordsbyjay
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    Well keep us updated.
     
  17. k5mog
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    So far this is my solution ($9.45) still need to fab a bracket .You can see the modifications to the wiper motor in my album.
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  18. k5mog
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    I made a templet out of 1/8 plywood and decided to bolt it and the wiper motor in and see how it worked. Well it worked a treat, I couldn't be more satisfied. Now just need to make the bracket out of metal.
    Ralph
     
  19. Mark T
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    What's the original application?
     
  20. JeffB2
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    k5,Share some pictures of the install and mods,OK?
     
  21. k5mog
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    The motor came out an early 2000 Windstar. I found several other motors I liked but they either required electronics to isolate and self park or had plastic brackets. I read another article on the old Willis forum where they had used a motor out of a 2002 tahoe, which is what I wanted , but all I found had barn doors instead of a lift gate. No wipers on the barn doors
     
  22. k5mog
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    Well here is the aluminum bracket to mount the wiper motor

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  23. chopd top
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  24. edljames
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    Used Newports on two different cars - one failed after about a year - I called Newport (I believe the are in GA) and they fixed it for no cost.
     
  25. Mark T
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    So have you tested it yet?

    We need an update.
     
  26. riskybiz
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    K5 If it is a rear tailgate window motor does it only have one speed??? or did you find some way to make it two speed. How did you find the park spot. any update info would be great. I see from one of the pictures that you taped the shaft for 54-55 spine, Did you thread the shaft from original wiper motor? I work in a body shop and we replace that style of tailgate all the time. I have thrown away a lot of those tailgate motors. If I had known what you have done I could have saved $205 x 4 on the newport unit I have used .:eek: I am very happy with the newport wiper motors and how they work.
     
  27. k5mog
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    Well I've tested my setup and discovered the wiper motor has to much throw, so I'm back to searching for a different motor. I will say the setup really worked good for a less then $15.00 dollar investment. I was really hoping someone had tried this and could save me the trial and error. But no problem when I find the right motor I'll post the part number and bracket pattern, along with modification steps. For people who can throw $250.00 at a wiper motor , Newport is the way to go.
    Ralph
     
  28. Copper Top
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    Been following this thread with interest. When you say "too much throw" do you mean the distance the wipers travel? If so, I'm wondering if the arms could be shortened. Or, maybe a wiper motor of something smaller like the older Toyota Rav4, Chevy Tracker, etc.
     
  29. k5mog
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    Yes, going to get a motor with less travel. If you look at the picture with the motor mounted and the arms attached, you will see it has a little to much travel. The last picture posted. I'm sure a motor with the shaft exiting below the glass will work. The motor I just tried, the shaft exited through the glass
     
  30. k5mog
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    Lastest update. It's amazing the dumb mistakes I can make. I shortened the crank arm to overcome the travel problem. When I tired it out I put the wiper arms on backyards, no wipers and when I turned it on the arms were binding when they crossed. When Copper Top mentioned shortening the arms I got to thinking about what I had done wrong So just went out to the shop and changed the arms and it works fine, except I could use more travel now. Going to redo the crank arm tomorrow, probably wind up with another 3 or 4 dollars in it.
    The motor I've used is a single speed and self parking. I'm going to keep looking for a 2 speed with self parking or learn how to adapt the electronics from a late model to have intermit, 2 speed and self parking. In fact the rear wiper motor from my wife's Yukon has just what I'm looking for, wonder if she would miss it.
    Ralph
     

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