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Hot Rods Trying to ID these alloy juice brakes

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bates, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. bates
    Joined: May 29, 2008
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    Hi
    Has anyone seen alloy backing plates like these before, they are cast, look like they originally used Ford cylinders but now have Chev style ones, wondering if they are one off things or were made for something. Rears were the same style but still used the steel mechanical backing plates. They were on a 35 ch***is that I purchased.

    Any info would be fantastic

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  2. bates
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    I should have said they are on 35 ford spindles and using 35 ford brake drums.


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  3. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    I bet they were an early aftermarket juice conversion. Doesn't really make sense to create a whole new backing plate when Ford made millions starting in 1939, but weirder things have happened. Ansen used to sell converted stock A backing plates fitted with hydraulic parts. I can't see how that could be cheaper than buying the '39 and up Ford stuff from a junk yard.

    Only reason might be there is no need to run the spacer rings on the spindle.
     
  4. mikegt4
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    It looks like they worked good enough to lock up the wheel and grind the tire down to the cord!
     
  5. Max Gearhead
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  6. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    Ansen sold hydraulic conversion of all the different 1929--1938 Ford brakes, NOT 1940 type conversions but brakes original to the car with something like 1940 Chevy cylinder added...like the ones shown up there. These were used because they supplied both the push and the adjustment, which was eliminated when the mechanical actuators were cut out. They turned the rear plates so cylinder would be at top and bored them all out for these cylinders, and sold then exchange complete with master cylinder and bracket, apply lever, tubes and hoses, etc.
    They must have sold a lot, because they were advertised in all the catalogs and magazines through the '50's and early '60's, but I have only seen fragments of the conversions.
     
  7. Bruce Lancaster
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    Can't find a match...they are more like '37 Ford than anything else I see, for sure not '35 type. Maybe totally non-Ford, but why both a brake swap AND heavy mods??
     
  8. Very cool parts
     

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