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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by candyman, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. candyman
    Joined: Jun 29, 2001
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    Hi folks. It's been a while since I have posted. I still read regularly but haven't had much to say. Things sure have changed around here.

    To the question, I am going to be painting my shoebox with Zero Rust soon. I am not thrilled with the colors however. The price is right though and it is pretty decent primer sealer. What I want to do is get a navy blue type color suede. But the only blue they have is a more mid colored blue. Can I get a navy type blue by mixing it with black? Here is the link for the color chart.

    http://www.zerorust.com/color.htm

    If not, what would be another attractive option?
     
  2. You might try the forum at autobodystore.com. Len sells that and would be very knowledgeable about it.
     
  3. whizzerick
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    NO! You can't. It's a mistake I made many times while mixing paint at the family's auto parts store. Adding black (or white) will only give darker (or lighter) shades of GRAY...

    You need to add a dark blue pigment.
     
  4. candyman
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    Thanks wizz! Can I just buy blue pigment or should I try another primer?
     
  5. whizzerick
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    Looking at the Technical info on the Zero Rust website (in the 'thinning' section), you can see that an Acrylic Enamel reducer can be used to thin the product.

    I believe this would indicate compatibility with acrylic enamel pigments available at your local auto paint supplier.

    You may want to make a test with a small quan***y?

    Start with a pint and keep track of the weight of the added pigment bases till you get the color you want. Thin, spray and let dry.

    If everything is a-ok, multiply your numbers for the remaining batch.

    BUT... At this point I'd be tempted to purchase the right quan***y of a good tintable primer, and have it tinted the right shade from the get-go...
    It's a costlier option, though...
     
  6. candyman
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    I just noticed that they will custom mix the colors for you. This is probably my best option. Thanks brother!
     
  7. Paint
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    Mixing the green and safety yellow will make blue,how dark depends on how dark the green is. I would start at about 3 parts green to one part yellow..
    Black could be addded in small amounts to darken it..
     
  8. Gambino_Kustoms
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    shoot the primer like a sealer(thined out good so it lays down nice) then shoot (almost wet on wet) a base coat with a hardner in it.of the colcr you want. this way you get the exact color you want!!!!!!!!

    alex
     
  9. you should be able to tint to shade with a "single stage"paint. you really won't need a whole lot of it to tint with.
     
  10. DrJ
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    HUH?

    Mixing blue and yellow pigments usually makes a green, or mud.
    Mixing more yellow in green is just going to make a yellowier green...!

    Unless you're mixing colored light at a Cow Palace Dead Head concert, then the hippies will tell you "Yea, I see it blue too!!!" :D :cool:
     
  11. DrJ
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    A friend did his T bird in the "red oxide" primer color Zero Rust but a test showed it to be too light a red, not the traditional red oxide color, so he mixed some of the blue with it and it darkened it.
    If I wanted a darker blue I'd try mixing some red with it.
    Yea, it's going to turn it a shade of purple, but mothers hate purple and it clashes with the tail lights so nice, and with just a dribble of black might be something like you want.
    The N***au Blue on '66-'67 Chevys had a lot of red in it and still looks blue, so what I'm proposing isn't that weird..
     
  12. Primer don't hold up any better than Alkyd Enamel, so prime, then spray some Duplicolor Navy Blue($37.95/gal) with some flattenning agent added. Maybe go in with someone on the flattener, it don't take much(although you must experiment on some test panels) and it don't keep real good. Be sure to stir the hell out of it before adding to the mix, and there-after!----------LEE
     
  13. candyman
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    This is what zero says to describe their paint.

    "Zero Rust is a direct-to-metal, phenolic modified alkyd coating, that controls rust and corrosion by putting down an impermeable barrier at the steel level. Zero Rust has two superior traits: (1) It provides maximum adhesion to steel. This is called chemical affinity. (2) Its dielectric ability is extraordinary. It isolates steel from the electrolysis process which converts steel to rust. (In laymen's terms, this means that if you can starve the oxygen from the substrate, oxidation cannot occur.)"

    If that is true or not I am not sure. But friends have had good luck with it and in my limited rattle can experience with it.... it worked better than any other stuff I used.
     

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