This may get lively, but here goes: In one of my old Petersen Complete Ford Books from the early seventies, there is a production list of Fords from 1932 to 1940 with numbers of each body style built. The list included Victorias for 1935 and 1936, with very low production figures for each (less than 100?). I believe the source of the info was the Early Ford V-8 Club. Now I've never seen any photos of such a car; I once asked Lee Hartung about them and he thought it was basically a slantback Tudor sedan with a flush trunk in the slanted part. Anyone know more?
I don't believe it has any validity. Never saw a picture or any listing for parts in the books. Maybe a foreign body.
Nope, never heard of one, no reference or photos in all of my Ford books either, even my Lorin Sorinson books or the Early Ford V8 clubs book on '35-'36's, but that's not to say I'm right. However, I would like to see one, the flat back Tudor body would lend it's self we'll to the concept. Show me one please! Thanks, -H.R.D.-
The slant back 2 door sedan that has no trunk lid resembles a Vicky but I think they made a lot of those, eh? Gary
Just recently a "boulevard delivery" showed up on Fordbarn I had never seen one mentioned and hope that this thread leads to the discovery of a 35-36 Vicky
If production numbers are as low as 100 for '35/'36 it is not likely anyone alive at the time ever saw one. I don't know if they built a Vic for '35/'36 but if they did it would be pretty rightious to just see one.
Exactly. Even if I saw one I would doubt it was real. Seems like one of those concours type guys or some uber-collector like jay Leno would have one by now if such a beast existed
Ford moved the engine forward in the ch***is by 8" in 1935, and the p***enger compartment went forward with it. This meant that the rear seat could move forward of the rear axle for comfort. A**** the appearance results of this change were that the hood became shorter and more blunt ('35 compared with '34), and that the rear of the sedans could now be slanted forward like a '34 Victoria. The additional overall length of the cab expected in a Tudor was now at the front rather than at the back. So, there was no longer a need for the Victoria, which was basically a club coupe with a relatively short back seat. The flatback Tudor now looked very much the same as a '34 Vic. Here's a very interesting phantom '35, built in the NW by a guy and his dad whose names I don't recall. This is a '35 Tudor, but they chopped it a little, leaned the rear panel forward by several inches, and fabricated the bustle from scratch. It's a beautiful piece of work, and if there had ever been a '35 Vic it should have looked like this:
All the 35 & 36 stuff I have & none has any refferance to a short run Vicky & if even less the a hundred were made there would be refferances to it. I have thought several times about converting a slant back to a Vicky it would not be all that hard, just time to make the proportions look good. I can build one if some one has a 2dr sedan & the ck book.
Louis here.... Ford never made a Vicky for 1935. But my dad and I felt like they should have that's why we set out to build our own version... This is my 1935 Ford Phantom Vicky. The car has been on the road since 2001. The idea came from looking at some ford spec do***ents that were to scale. We actually cut the paper up, drew changes then scaled from there to know what to change. The car started life as a 2 door flat back sedan and was chopped 2" and had the roof filled. The rear side windows were shortened some as stock they were the same length front and rear, look at a 33-34 Vicky and you will see that rear window a bit shorter. The top was then slid forward creating that bussell common in earlier Victorias. Doing this made the quarter area of the top grow a bit as well. All these metal changes were done by my dad Dave Perry who is the very best metal man I know. It was his idea that made it to reality. I'm 31 now and so glad I still own this father son project... Ask away any questions... Louis Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Louis, I love your car, and I hope I made that clear in the post about it just above. I met you and your dad several years ago at the anti-Derelict breakfast in Huntington Beach. He's a cool guy, and his skills are everything you say they are.
I'd forgotten I started this little thread. I dug up my Complete Ford Book, 3rd Edition (1973) and found the reference at the bottom of Page 10. Here's the info: Looking at the footnote below, I can see the forty-eight "1935" Model 40 Victorias as late-production '34s, but what about the Model 48 Victorias listed as built in '35 and '36???
I stumbled upon this old thread because I just rolled my 35 Tudor (I call it a slantback, but I'm guessing it's what you guys are calling a flatback) to a Starbucks and a couple of old guys there were trying to convince me that I'm driving a Victoria. I told them I didn't think so. I didn't think Ford made a Victoria in 1935. I always thought the slantback was just the Todor without the trunk and the humpback model is the Tudor with a trunk. These guys were telling me that the slanted back model without a trunk is definitely Victoria. . .but I've never called mine a Vicky. Attaching a couple of pics.
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