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  1. 55 dude
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    does anyone here do this on regular basis? i have checked border customs website and other than registration,bill of sale and any paperwork from IBCB the only other 2 forms are EPA form 3520-1 and DOT form HS-7. were talking 64 year old vehicle thanks guys!
     
  2. Canuck
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    20 years ago, so info could be out of date.

    Sold a 47 Chevy to a guy in North Dakota. US Customs advised him to pick it up in Canada. Met Rick at a town on the border, had a coffee and did the paper work required. He had no problem going back to ND. The ND MVB accepted a copy of the Manitoba vehicle registration as equivalent to a ***le (we don't have vehicle ***les here).

    Talk to your customs people and Motor Vehicle people to see what they want.

    Canuck
     
  3. Gman0046
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    It can be a problem. I purchased a car from a Canadian who was in the U.S. attending a major car show. When he left Canada he really didn't plan on selling the car while he was in the U.S. and had no do***ents from either the Canadian or U.S. Customs. I had a bill of sale and a signed Canadian registration. When I went to register the car in Kentucky they said I couldn't register it because I had no U.S. Customs do***entation. When I called the U.S. Customs office the person I first talked to said I had to return the car back to Canada to straighten things out. As that was a thousand miles away I knew that wasn't going to happen. After some discussion with her supervisor, it was determined that I would have to bring the car to the U.S. Customs Office for inspection and to get the required do***ents. Fortunately for me the closest Customs office was at the Louisville, Kentucky International Airport not that far away. Had Louisville not had an International Airport where they had a Customs facility, I don't know where I would have had to go to get the car inspected. Fortunately they said the car was originally manufactured in the U.S. and I didn't have to pay any duty. All the Customs Inspectors did was to check the VIN #.
     
  4. 55 dude
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    i have already contacted local dmv and unless it goes through customs you won't get US ***le. my question is have they added and other forms beside the ones i listed. all customs wants is completed paperwork for the vehicles file and i don't want to spend few hundred dollars with broker as transport is expensive enough! anyone?
     
  5. Gman0046
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    55 dude, thats exactly what happened to me. No need to hire a broker. Ask your DMV what forms from Customs they require. I only received one form from U.S. Customs which was OK with our local DMV.
     
  6. 55 dude
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    decided to call different border crossing location and someone actually answered the phone and provided the needed info! turns out a 60 year old vehicle is exempt from emissions and DOT bumper requirements so after they check registration they give you needed paperwork to register car in us.
     
  7. papajohn
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    I am getting ready to do this same thing. I called the Peace Bridge (Buffalo, NY). The US customs people were great. Only need the DOT and EPA forms filled out and check off exempt (car is a 1960) then need to fill out a Customs form (they said they can do this with/for me)and provide a signed transferable registration/***le and should be good to go. I also called the Canadian side and they said they will just verify and record the vin, no paperwork needed,

    Sounds too simple/easy. Hopefully it all goes smoothe.
     
  8. roddin-shack
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    If you are going from Canada to the USA, you do not even deal with Canada Customs, just go straight to USA Customs they will ***ist you with the informal import requirement, no taxes, no charge, then bring the report and Bill of Sale as well as the ***le to the D.O.T. office near you and they will gladly accept the tax money from and give you a new ***le. Very Simple no Canadian Custom Boogey-Man to deal with.
     
  9. Gman0046
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    roddin-shack has it right. Except if the car is coming from Ontario there is no ***le only the registration.
     
  10. skipperman
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    Yep ........roddin' has it .. done it several times myself ....... ALWAYS bring a Canadian car over YOURSELF !!!

    ....... Jersey Skip
     
  11. " Fortunately they said the car was originally manufactured in the U.S. and I didn't have to pay any duty.
    All the Customs Inspectors did was to check the VIN #. "


    If you are considering buying a vehicle in Canada or any other foreign country and planning on driving it on the roads in the states - you need to register it first in the state you license it in.

    Sounds simple - but depending on the actual vehicle & manufacture date along with the country of final ***embly - that might prove to be a problem.

    You want a ' paper trail ' from the states showing that the final ***embly - original sale - initial license & registration - took place in the states BEFORE it left the country.

    Without that - you may end up with a Parade Vehicle you cannot register
    and license for use on the public roads - even after spending a lot of money trying.

    Accept delivery in the states - that way you know it can be imported.

    And - as has been pointed out before on this thread - think twice about
    buying a vehicle at a car show or from a Seller that has not been imported by the Seller and do***ented as such ...


    Jim
     
  12. roddin-shack
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    I know I was using American speak, inserting ***le instead of registration or ownership do***ent !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. roddin-shack
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    Gman0046. The only thing I can add is that any international airport in the USA are obligated to inspect a car for import that was purchased within the USA. You should not need an appointment but just need to show up with the vehicle and necessary paper work and they will do the import papers for you.
     
  14. Gman0046
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    roddin-shack, the reason I made an appointment was that the Louisville International Airport Customs Office is lightly staffed and pretty spread out. I had enough trouble getting them to answer the telephone. The Office Supervisor was the one who suggested I make an appointment to ***ure someone was there when I showed up.

    Gary
     
  15. I bought an older Cadillac in Idaho several years ago that turned out to have final ***embly at the
    Canadian Oshawa Car ***embly Plant.

    It was originally sold in Canada - but that was not the history I was told ...

    When I tried to ***le & register it - a VIN search showed it was never legally imported
    and because it was not originally sold in the states it did not meet federal safety standards
    at the time of manufacture ..

    Very long story short - I actually bought an expensive parts car ...

    I do speak from experience.

    Jim
     
  16. papajohn
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    UPDATE brought my new ride from Canada today. It actually went as smooth as they promised. Zero interaction with Canadian customs, 100% USA.

    Posted using a number two pencil on a paper napkin.
     
  17. G.M.-TECH
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    What happens when your buying a project,1939, with no engine or trans. Has a bill of sale only. vehicle from Alberta, Canada, bringing it back to the states. You guys think that vehicle will be exempt. I'll need a ***le for it to register it back in the states but I feel I can do that by just buying a ***le from the ***le guys that are at the swap meets or on the net? Any feedback Thanks
     
  18. 55 dude
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    call us customs and ask what you need. your exempt from EPA and DOT so bill of sale should be fine but double check. another thing customs run different hours at different crossing points so see what hours are where you crossing at.
     
  19. Allinonevrs
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    It starts with what state your registering it in. Most states will require US Customs do***ents, a letter from the manufacture stating the vehicle meets US Federal Safety Standards and proof that it meets the states smog standards. It's much tougher in California if it
    doesn't meet smog standards.

    Check with your state first. If it's California, we can help you with it.

    Dave - All In One Vehicle Registration.
    909-810-2005


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  20. I exported a 55 Chrysler from Ontario to the USA for my brother. It was a St Regis New Yorker model.
    Since it was a US made car originally (A Canadian version would have been a Windsor) the head man at the US customs ran the Vin first to see if the original US registration still was on file. It wasn,t He gave me a bit of a hard time teasing me that a car that nice couldn't have been made in Canada but I managed to keep my cool. Then he took out a form and wrote on it US GOODS RETURNED and that was that. This was a completely restored vehicle and after winning a few peoples choice awards around Dallas was sold at Auction and was last seen in Northern Holland on the other side of the ocean. It Has BTW as has been stated nothing to do with Canadian customs whatsoever so dont ask them, they don't know, but is up to the US customs if it is going south. An unfit provincial registration would save anyone buying it a lot of h***le.
    don
     
  21. 55 dude
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    vintage vehicles are exempt from EPA and DOT required standards. i was told this couple weeks on the phone by border customs.
     

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