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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by borndead327, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. borndead327
    Joined: Feb 9, 2005
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    do yall run reverse offset wheels? or standard offset
    i am thinkin of putting theese on a 53 ford vicky
    any info and pics would help
    thanks
     
  2. 38Chevy454
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    The offset is going to depend on what fits your car. If you have the room, the "reverse" stick out farther and have a deeper appearance. Reverse is a little harder on the wheel bearings, especially the outer. They also create a bit more scrub when turning and make it a bit harder to turn.

    I don't have a pic handy now, but on my 60 El Camino I run the standard offset, 14x6 front and 15x7 rear. They look great.
     
  3. Olson
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    Standard for my '62 Olds...

    Not very many cars I'd like reverse Astros on. Deep dished wheels are for wide tires. Look retarted otherwise.

    But most importantly go with what fits yer car.

    Olson
     
  4. I could just barely got a stock late-model (87) Lincoln steelie, probably 7" wide, on the rear of my '52... not a lot of room under there.
     
  5. borndead327
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    same with my old lincoln i coulnt fit the late model wheels on with out lettin the air out of the tires. i wanna run supremes up front steelies in the back lol im ghetto and u wont be able to see the rear anyway
     
  6. JamesG
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    Standard on this one too. 15x7's
     

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  7. Brandy
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    Not mine, but I'll claim them.:D Astros and pinners......ewww ahhhhhhh!

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    Astros and wides.............ewwwwwwwww ahhhhhh....

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  8. chromedRAT
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    bought a set of 15x8s for my 65 impala. hope they fit!!!
     
  9. touchdowntodd
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    im still like the only guy that loves the astro WWW look... atleast m,ost wont admit to it, LOL.... wonder what offset i need for a 57 lincoln... hmmm.. i think thats the way im gonna go
     
  10. twofosho
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    Deep dish chrome reverse were the cat's meow (you can use your own expression here if you want) on just about anything in the early 60's from what I remember of my high school days. A lot of 50's and some early 60's cars (about 4" wheel to fender on my 58 Pontiac) had plenty of room for them, you'll just have to measure. When you turn around the center on the rim with the average 6" wheel, you end up with a little less than 2" backspacing and a 4" dish.
    This was a fairly easy mod on a riveted wheel, just knock the rivets out and turn the center around and use the rivet holes to hold the pieces together in temporary alignment, chuck it up in a lathe to dial in the runout and s***ch weld it together. It seems to me all the Astro wheels were steel and probably made in similar fashion using their own stamped centers.
    I remember seeing the ads for Astro Supremes in the magazines, and seeing pictures of them on lots of show cars in those same mags, but never really saw many on the street, maybe because they came out about the same time as the Cragar Super Sports and that was what the kids who could afford them were buying where I went to school.
    Cheap as the prices seem in those old magazines now for chrome reversed or Supremes, a lot of us ran painted rims and baldy caps. Even the kid with the chopped, channelled, sectioned door (because of the channel), 283 Chev powered '30 model A coupe had it in primer with painted steel rims and baldy caps, and it was probably only that way because the money wasn't there yet for paint and fancy wheels and not because we thought plain wheels and primer were cool.
    Deep dish Astros still look as dynamite now as they did then and I wouldn't hesitate to run them if they clear the fenders, wheel bearings be damned.
     
  11. RagDoll
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    Thanks Brandy! You can claim them! And next month, I'll be able to say ALL our old cars have Sue-preeems on em. I'm tired of looking at those nasty mags on the Poncho.
     
  12. Brandy
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    HEY! After Billet Proof I TRIED to do away with those MAGS for ya.:D


    Holy **** I'm laughing SO hard I'm crying remembering that.:rolleyes: :D
     
  13. 122wagon
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    standard 14" oh and i love supremes with www, and i stand up and admit it!

    but def not on my car
     

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  14. Squablow
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    I've got some 6 or 7 inch wide 15" steelies on the back of my '53 Ford with a standard size tire, running a set of 4" lowering blocks on a '70 Mach 1 9" rearend. The rims/tires fit without rubbing, but I'd have to unbolt the rearend to get the wheels/tires off now.

    Reverse wheels ain't gonna fit on a 52-54 Ford car unless it's either 4x4 tall or has radiused g***er style wheelwells. And Supremes ain't gonna look good with either of those options. So get some 6" wide regular offset rims for the car if you want to run them.

    Supremes look good with WWW's but the odder the whitewall design, the better. Two stripes, yellow lines, checkers, Vogues, or those 2" wide whitewalls, the ones that ain't quite wide whites and ain't skinny either (lots of Caddy's and Lincolns had 'em in the 70's) look the best on a Supreme. I've got a set of whitewall nail guards I'm gonna run on Supremes for my '60 Plymouth. Looks like a regular pinner whitewall but says Nail Guard in little black letters on the white part and shows a nail stuck in the whitewall. Pretty cool.
     
  15. twofosho
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    Hey, Looking at your pictures just reminded me, Astro Supremes and U S Royal Masters, that was the combo. Wide whites were already out of style when these were popular. Damn good looking Starliner by the way, with that rear wheelwell treatment. Loose the bellflowers, put back the door chrome with an extra set turned around and shortened on the quarters, add Canadian Meteor grilles and taillights, 63 XL interior, and you've got the makings of the Bill Neuman R & C project car. Didn't use Astros, though.
     
  16. Brandy
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    Yes thank you thank you......but see WHY make it a REPLICATED custom when it's ALREADY one? That car was customized long ago and sat for years.......SO why change a one of a kind custom to REPLICATE another?
     
  17. Olson
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    Hell yeah I can admit I like astros and wide whites. But I do like some of the already mentioned variations more. Double or Triple pinners or the "kinda wide" especially. I want about 3/4" of black then a 2" whitewall for mine. Lucked out...I've got a client who has car dealerships and he's got a guy who comes in and cuts tires, so no problem. :D

    Olson
     
  18. twofosho
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    Hey, I wasn't advocating changing it, car looks just fine the way it is. Just trying to point out how similar it is with the wheelwell and paint treatment, to what I've always considered as one of the prettiest 60 Ford mild customs anyone ever did. I've often wondered if the Neuman car still existed.
    Thanks Brandy for the posting help, guess I was just having a V8 moment.
     
  19. RagDoll
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    twofosho...got any more info on that car? If you do, could you send me or macs55 a PM?
     
  20. Brandy
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    A v8 moment? Oh I like mine with celery and a lil pepper in it.:D
     
  21. twofosho
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    R & C ran a 3 part series on the build up starting in the fall of 63. I think the issue with Roth's Mysterion on the cover had part 1 in it. Part 2 was about interior and wheelwell mods. The issue with part 3 had it in colour on the cover (shared with the "A" brothers built Budnik 60 Pontiac) with a photo feature on the completed car inside. Sorry, I can't remember the exact months of issue. I can't recall seeing it featured in any other magazines, and I never saw it in any of the car shows I went to. Always wondered if Ford had it as part of their Custom Caravan, but if they did, I never saw it in Portland.
     
  22. BADASSOLDS
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    Love the Supremes:cool:
     

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  23. 54BOMB
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    I couldnt fit 15x8 on the front of my 65 impala, I was running chrome baby moons . Hopefully the offset will work but I had to go with a 15x7 and 15x8 on the rear.
     
  24. I bought a set of 14x6 for my car with a reverse offset. They look great, but don't fit on my car. On a full size car, they'd be great.

    Not sure whether to keep them for a future project, or sell them. :(

    Anyone got a set of standard offset wheels they want to swap?
     
  25. Anderson
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    Damn dude.....not bad.....but I am a little bias :D
     

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  26. chromedRAT
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    what a coincidence, they didn't fit on the front of my impala either! summit only had two 15x7s... believe that? i'd have gotten a set of them in the first place if they did... so i called em back, got the two 15x7s and am going to send two of the 15x8s back for a refund. pretty good folks to deal with though, nowhere near the headaches jegs likes to push on ya...
     

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