Projects '32 5W - In Search of my VIN

Great attitude thirtytoo. Welcome to the '32 Club, you might be just as crazy as the rest of us. I don't know if your the kind of guy that finds his dream & keeps it forever or if you will be ready to trade next year. If you decide to keep it, think about building a new frame. It will increase it's value and provide you with countless hours of entertainment. Don't know what your skill level is, but learning engineering, welding and fabrication are always skills in demand. You might build a masterpiece and impress your friends and make money doing things for them. You will always need more money!! '32 parts hanging in the garage is better than fishing, vacations and almost ........sex ( your significant other may doubt that). Lots of luck and keep us posted.

 

Anyone know where i can get a good deal on a '32 frame, VIN intact..

 

Take out complete rollers come up on eBay several times a year and go for $5000 -$15000. Mostly without titles though.
Ed

 

Latest Hemmings Motor News ( August issue) page 407, `32 rolling chassis, original untouched frame,`40 brakes, `39 trans, 59L block, `32 radiator. valid California title. $ 8,500.

 

The front of the frame (firewall forward) looks like 33 plymouth to me.

 

By the way.....Please don't drive that car until you re-route the rear brake lines. That is an accident waiting to happen. One sharp bump and those lines are crimped!

 

Thanks for the tip.. The lines do look routed in an unsafe fashion..

 

Good advice. Listen to this!

 

Well, you have a '32 body, and that's probably the hard and expensive part. Start watching the HAMB want ads... that is as good a place as any to dig for a frame.

 

Looks like you have a good base to work from. The body appears to be in great shape. How hard is it to get a constructed title in CA? In Kansas all it takes to get a title on these years is the frame number or whatever was used on the original car. Just send in the numbers and they will send you a title.

 

Yeah, if you have the orig VIN numbers.. Thats the issue..


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Little too much $ for me just look'n for a frame, in any condition..


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Thats a good price for a 32 frame with title. You're getting the 59AB, 39 trans and 40 brakes and the rest for free. That would be ideal because you'd get it registered and you can transfer your body onto it and have a real traditional '32 Ford coupe. You can then part out you existing roller to recoup some money.
Ed

 

On buying one with title...that title is potentially a huge extra. A lot of frames are coming from streetrodders, and many of them have titled there '32's from the original frame number, even though their car no longer has a real number. This is a sure recipe for trouble when your actual '32 hits the computer at DMV and runs into the now-bogus '32 that is using its number...

 

I think if one is being advertised "with Title" then it is the only one bearing that number. The problem is when you buy a take out frame without title and try to use the genuine number. I wouldn't even try that trick even though I'm on the other side of the planet. Why? Well if the fake framed 32 Streetrod in California gets stolen suddenly the genuine framed duplicate in Germany becomes "stolen". That'll get flagged next time it gets sold on and presto, the Californian streetrodder gets a free traditional hot rod roadster shipped to him from Germany. Do you think he'll complain? Hell no he'll just keep his mouth shut.

 

Bluto was once on here talking about a famous Bugatti race car that was heavily damaged in action and broken up for parts. Engine, frame, and various chunks of shrapnel were all eventually found by different people, "restored" with lots of fabricated pieces as values of everything shot up, and now there are three of this individual famous racer.
Think of a Model A...motor is discarded in 1936 for a rebuilt, old motor goes through several life cycles, and now reaches a HAMBER who rebuilds it again and titles his car to that block number. The actual car lives on, and then is sold to a streetrodder. He sells the chassis to another HAMBER who, quite legitimately since he has the actual car, uses the frame number to title his rod. The streetrodder, even though he has only a body, goes to title it with a Speedway chassis using the original title that he kept back from the frame sale...
In an interesting collision of Karmas, they wind up in the same line at the DMV with their registration applications in hand...the resulting conversation eventually requires intervention by the National Guard...

 

Yeah,..before buying a frame ill search the VIN in DMV, to make sure its clean..


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Still no luck on a frame..:/

Cant believe there isn't a better deal than $8500,.. I don't need an engine and trans, etc..


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That $8.5K gets you a real '32 Ford. Right now you don't have one. You have a body.

 

I found someone selling a frame only. Says its '32 but not sure.. VIN still stamped in frame saying *51I2...* (I left off the last three numbers) but does that look like a Canadian frame number..?


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Think there is something odd about that number. Should be 18- 001 to 18- 203,126 for a 1932.

 

Might be easier to go with an aftermarket frame, just looked one up at $1,650. Might be able to get one cheaper. Is the a reason you don't want to go with a constructed title? I have no idea about CA title laws, but there appears to be a lot of constructed cars built in CA.

 

Specialty constructed here in CA is really for kit cars.. Just depends on what you want..


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Found this on Canadian VINs http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachments/canvin-jpg.437106/


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A chassis from a 4-cylinder '32 has a number like *B-5XXXXX*, so that chassis might be correct. You need to look at the number near the steering box for the stamping that contains the B. If you are looking at the rail under the door or over the rear axle, the factory sometimes left the B off those locations.

If you are really that unfamiliar with original '32 parts, I can't imagine why you'd feel comfortable spending thousands of dollars based on some advice over the internet. You need to find a friend that is very knowledgeable about '32's and have him go view the parts with you.

 

I appreciate the info on the 4 cyl VINs and I understand what you're saying.

But I think the info I've gotten on this forum is much better than some single "expert" i could have tag along looking at '32 parts..


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If you find the right expert, he can remove all the doubt. Even a close up pic of a chassis may look like original rails, but they could be a well-fabricated set of repros. Having actual hands on the parts can save wasted money and time. I'd help if I was closer. Wanna buy me a plane ticket?

 

Appreciate the offer.. Im still looking but if you happen to come across an orig frame with intact VIN id be forever in your debt..


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This is the one I've been lookn at..


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Even if you find an original '32 frame with visible serial numbers you should check with DMV to see if that serial has been used by someone else as a VIN. Here was the drill several years ago: Dream up a legitimate serial number and run it through the DMV. If it is clear then stamp it on a repop frame and build your '32. This is a felony, but was done a lot in the pre Boyd days. Or a guy would buy an "Historic Document", or an old hashed frame with legit numbers and once again stamp a repop frame and title it. Also a felony. I looked for several years to find one that had legible, DMV clear numbers and finally gave up and went "Special Construction". The only way to do this legally is to find an original with legible numbers, that are clear via DMV, or go "Special Construction". If you go "Special Construction" the car will have to pass the emission standards of the year the "Special Construction title, unless you get one of 500 "SPCNS" exemptions. Then a CHP inspection and "Blue" "Special Construction" VIN and then a CARB inspection with SPCNS emissions exemption sticker. It is a lot of work and you will still not have a 1932 title, but it is legal, you have not committed a felony and they won't come and confiscate your car and prosecute you.