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Technical How do I keep front brake hoses off of tires?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Greasyman, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. Greasyman
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    The brake hoses on my T bucket rub against the sidewalls when I turn them. Is there a way to keep them off? As far as I can tell they are a reasonable length.
     
  2. ct1932ford
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    Sounds like they are too long! Any pictures?
     
  3. deadbeat
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    maybe use a small spring,attach one end to your headlight mount and hook the other end around your hose
     
  4. tb33anda3rd
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    disconnect the end of the hose that attaches to the frame and hold it in a different position/angle/direction while someone turns the wheel lock to lock. keep moving it till you find a spot that works.
     
  5. Gerry Moe
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    If you have enough flex hose to put a loop in it, thats what I did.
     
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  6. jaw22w
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    Tighten the end at the drum or caliper. Twist the other end. The hose will kind of snake up starting to coil. Twisting one way or the other should get it off the tire. Tighten the frame end when you get it off the tire. Worked for me.
     
  7. I wouldn't try and use anything to hold or pull on them. As suggested above, relocate where they are attached to the frame. My hoses were close to rubbing. I had to play with the mounting to keep them from touching just like you've described.


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  8. Lone Star Mopar
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    Jaw22w has it right, just reorient it as your tightening. Spin it to a spot with more clearance.

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  9. jaw22w
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    You don't want to use any undue force to twist the hose but you will find there is a certain amount of rotation available just like coiling a rope or torch hose. When you get the correct rotation, tightening it at the frame connection will hold it. It is possible this will not get it off the tire, then you may have to relocate the bracket. It's just a whole lot easier to twist it, if it works.
    My brackets and hoses have a hex which allows you to clock the hose to the bracket. That holds the twist on mine.
     
  10. Greasyman
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    Thanks for all the ideas. Here's a few photos.
     

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  11. squirrel
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    where the hose connects to the tube, under the headlight bracket, is there a metal tab mount for the end of the hose? looks like there is not. You need a support there.

    Also, it usually works better if the hose comes straight out the back of the brake, instead of pointing along the backing plate.
     
  12. Like Squirrel said, a hose coming out at 90 degrees to your backing plate would maybe work better. You might be able to get a 90 degree elbow which you can screw in between your br*** fitting and the hose. This will also let you point the hose up, down, whatever until it misses everything.
     
  13. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Longer hoses----Then twist em' away from the tires.
     
  14. shivasdad
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    That br*** adapter (or whatever that is) changes your angle pushing the hose over into the tire. If your hose went straight into the wheel cylinder it looks like it would hold the hose away from the tire through most of the range. I also agree with Squirrel that you need a tab to mount the brake hose to brake tubing transition fitting.
     
  15. clem
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    I wouldn't do this. - better to replace with shorter hoses.
     
  16. Lad_RoadDevils
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    Twist the line slightly so that it makes a coil (like a snake) and then tighten.
     
  17. inthweedz
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    As deadbeat said.. A weak spring to hold them away will work..
    Holden (GM Australia) used this method to do exactly the same thing on some of their models back in the 70s.. Never heard of any problems, and I worked in a GM agency at the time..
     
  18. Some GM trucks have a metal bracket mid-hose that bolts on the A-arm or someplace and keep them off the tires, I've changed a few of those, IIRC 73-87 pickups. So you can hold them away for the time being. But I agree with the idea to change to some that angle out from the backing plate is the best solution.
     
  19. ct1932ford
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    Ok! where do I start? Hose too long, Angle coming off backing plate too close to tires, Hose should be at 90 degrees going trough the frame or a tab under the frame. Get to it!
     
  20. RICH B
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    As mentioned the angle off the wheel is a problem; br*** gizmo turns the hose too close to the backing plate. Personally, looks wise, I think the hoses should reach the frame with no exposed steel tubing. Here's a couple pictures, long hoses over a long distance. Never gets close to tires or suspension. No hard twists in the hose, just worked with the location and angle of the frame bracket.
    hose 1.jpg
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    hose r.jpg
     
  21. alchemy
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    What kind of brakes are those? Is that br*** block factory? If not, can you get the factory style end on a new hose to point closer to a 90 from the backing plate?

    As stated before, it's hard to see if you have a support at the inward side of the hose. You CANNOT just let the end of the hose connect to hard line, and just hang there in mid-air. You need a bracket with a hole for the end of the hose to lock into. Usually they are held in with special U clips, but some use nuts that thread onto the hose fitting. The placement of this bracket is KEY to how your hose fits around your suspension.
     
  22. Gerry Moe
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    Probably would not have advised this if I had seen the pictures first. My advice after seeing the picture would be to find a different style of brake hose with a different connection angle at slave cylinber
     
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  23. HOTRODPRIMER
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    It looks like you have enough room to use some type elbow fitting that way you could route the hose in a different direction. HRP
     
  24. harpo1313
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    If you add an elbow to that ,it aint gonna be pretty.Im curios about that block?The pic above is what you need.
     
  25. clem
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    Agreed !
     
  26. scott51
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    Do this, using Rich B's photos as a guide.

    If for some reason you can't or don't want change fittings at the drum or frame, like Gerry Moe said you can also get hoses with different angled fittings on the ends.
     
  27. swade41
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    this is how mine looks for the last 7 yrs

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