Technical Anyone Using This Combo ?

roughly 1 1/64 inches or 1.0156,it is setup

 

that is on a cir***ference set to an arch of 55 degrees.and yes it is a she,with heilp of her dad.

 

At Bob's request, I have uploaded photos of his really nice 1951 Chevy Deluxe Coupe. Workmanship is excellent, lots of attention to detail. Bet those pipes sound great! Bob, Thanks for sharing the pics!



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F.A., I would say the TV cable could be figured out, but I DO fear the thought of the ****** going up in smoke. Looking at the chart posted by Ray, from Tom Langdon, does show the 700 R to be the best bang for the buck, based on gearing shown. FYI, I am in north GA.

 

Thanks, Joe.

 

You folks have certainly been very helpful to me, and those responses are appreciated.
Thanks to your posts, I now have names of companies I can contact for further information on the TV cable application.
I was concerned about the rear side mount bell housing stabilizer mounts on the '51, but believe that issue can be resolved in a not-too-difficult manner.
As I receive info from these companies, I will post my findings, to share with you guys.
Being that the 700 looks the best on Tom Langdon's chart, can anyone suggest which years to use .... and which vehicles to pull the 700 from ?

 

Bob,

Maybe I am missing something, but I read Tom Langdon's chart to suggest the 2004R is the best choice with the 700R4 following......good, but not best. That happens to be my opinion as well. The reasons being, smaller, shorter case, lighter weight, great ratio spread and less power absorbtion due to less rotating m***/internal friction. The 700R4 is not a BAD choice by any means, just not optimum.

Whichever you choose, best wishes as you move forward with the project.

Ray

 

WOW Ray, thanks! Just saw the pics.
The pipes do sound great BUT those Cherry Bombs are just too much for me.
I must quiet those pipes down a bit.

 

You may find them a bit more mellow behind an automatic trans......the rpm rise and fall won't be as great as it goes through the gears under light/moderate throttle. If it were me, I'd wait until the ****** was done and fully functioning before I would change them. But, then, I haven't actually heard yours...only recall how sweet dual gl***packs sounded on a Chevy six 'back in the day'

 

Ray,
I should have been more clear and said "best for my application".
The '51 has a 3:50 rear gear. Closest in the charts is a 3:55 rear gear.
The 700 has a 3:06 1st gear, and with a 3:55 rear gear, gives an A- grade.
The 200 has a 2:74 1st gear, and with a 3:55 rear gear, gives a B+ grade.
A little more in 1st gear, with the 700.
Bob.

 

Go with the 350.... same length as you manual, same slip yoke and driveshaft, so much less to modify. Downside to any of them is loss of side mounts at bellhousing, but that can be overcome.

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Your advice is good, the mufflers are on the bottom of the list of things to do. Yes, the Chevy 6 sound with duals is always easy to pick out.

 

Joe, thanks.
I found the thread on Stovebolt and saw the pics on Facebook.
Dads' explanation of the process was good.
I liked his idea of adding a .015 homemade shim between the flexplate and crank, rather than grinding away on the block, near the crank.
Bob.

 

Any help you need just ask.the info on this site is the best,and that's due to the great people that hang here!

 

Joe, I totally agree with you.
This is week one for me, on this site. Brand new to H.A.M.B.
I am very appreciative for all the responses and ***istance.
Thanks to all who have been there to direct me in this upcoming ****** swap.

 

How well I remember Ronnie Sox ....... and Butch Leal from my days at Thompson Dray Raceway, east of Cleveland, Ohio, in Thompson, Ohio.
Considering the 350, what years should I be looking for? Out of what vehicles?
Bob.

 

Based on the above posts ....... Which years of 350 ****** should I be looking for ?

 

The 350 is going to be the ****** for the '51.
Regarding auxiliary ****** coolers, is it possible to cool the ****** fluid down too much, if the cooler is too large ?
Thoughts on this ?

 

No one addressed this, but that I know of no 200R4 is computer controlled, and the 700R4 became the 4L60E in 1993; ideally for a core you want a later one, not an earlier one. It's not hard to convert one with electric speedometer output back over to a gear drive.

 

All correct. The 200-4R is a small, one piece case with a rotating ***embly the size of a power glide and as far as I know, always has a dual pattern bell housing that fits all GM 6 and 7 bolt bell housing configurations. The 700R4 is the same size rotating ***embly as a TH350 and is available in either Chevrolet or BPOC(rarely) bell configurations. The last and best iteration of the 700R4 was supplied in 1989 thru 1992 GM products. For a "conventional" installation you should look for a Caprice as the donor as it has nearly the same tail shaft housing as the earlier TH350 and TH400 transmissions with similar transmission mount and speed-o configuration. The 700R4 with Caprice tail shaft housing is <1/2" different dimensions than a TH350 and is usually a "bolt in" once you add the TV cable accommodation.

 

Still would like feedback on he cooler question. Thanks.

 

Your combination shouldn't put a lot of load on the transmission so a small (40-50 square inch) aluminum cooler designed for this purpose mounted ahead of the radiator in the grill should be more than adequate and not too big to over cool.

 

Thanks for the info. Can, in fact, overcooling be an issue ?

 

Yes, over cooling is not a good thing. Trans oil temps in the 170* to 200* range would be good. Transmissions are not so much different than engines in that they are mechanical devices that thrive best at "operating temperature".....

An in radiator cooler would keep the trans near engine temp, and as was pointed out, you likely will not be inducing high loads on the trans in your application. I don't know what you are running for a radiator, perhaps a shop could put one in you lower tank. If that is not feasible,then an air to oil aux cooler is probably your best bet.

Several cars from the '50s (Chevrolet, Buick, Mopar) had separate coolers ( actually heat exchangers) usually between the engine and radiator through which engine coolant circulated as well as trans fluid.

Ray

 

You know Ray, this car is new to me, has an aluminum radiator, think it may be a Superior brand, but not certain.
Car is not stored at home now, but a light bulb came on ..... perhaps this aluminum rad. has a built in cooler. Just never considered that fact.