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Projects '32 5W - In Search of my VIN

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by thirtytoo, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. alchemy
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    That sure looks like an original frame from here. But note that the rear has been kicked up, the frame horns are missing from both ends, and the front may even be pinched. That's in addition to the weird boxing plates and mounts that may or may not work with your application. Lots of opportunity for things to not fit right on your car. If you are trying to put a more original fit chassis under your body, I'd look for a different frame.
     
  2. thirtytoo
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    Yeah, been looking for something I can afford to get me closer to being on the road.. This being the closest so far..

    Im only interested in the real deal Henry Ford body and frame.. I want to be able to fully enjoy it when its done and not have to worry about anything down the road.

    So like 29AVEE8 said hopefully be able to title it based on an orig VIN on orig frame or go the Specialty Constructed route.


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  3. thirtytoo
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    Found what looks much better.

    Seller says:
    "Original 1932 Ford Frame (late). Was V frame. Front crossmember bolted in. K and rear cross member are riveted. K has ben cut on left leg and on vertical back (shown in photos). Rear cross member ha common cutting (likely for dual exhaust). Frame has some sight pitting on inside/ top of passenger side rail - at junction with rear cross member. Rear cross member pitted in same area. This frame will clean up nicely. Has excellent sides and reveal."
     

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  4. alchemy
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    That looks like a great frame. A flathead and banjo rear would be great in that frame. If you want to use a more modern drivetrain, you could still make a lot of money back if you carefully remove the center crossmember and sell it to a traditionalist.
     
  5. thirtytoo
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    Sorry for delay.. But thanks for the reply!!



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  6. thirtytoo
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    What's your view on strengthening the frame if I keep my 351W, C4 trans and 8 inch rear in this..?

    I assume box the frame rails, remove the existing crossmember and maybe use a center X-member would be strong enough.
     
  7. coast40
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    If you're going to all that trouble, and the car will have an assembled or non-32 title, you might be time, money, and strength ahead to use an aftermarket frame. ps. can you post pics again. The pic links are dead.
     
  8. thirtytoo
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    Sorry for confusion. Im talking about strengthening an orig frame w/ orig '32 title.

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  9. thirtytoo
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  10. It is expensive, it's also a lot of work to make it all bolt in without drilling any new holes.

    Everyone who has bought one from me has remarked at how well these fit, fast and easy installation. And they really do strengthen the frame.
     
  11. Bruce Lancaster
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    We ordered two of Elpolacko's earlier rear brace kit, one for my future use and one for immediate use on a friend's chassis under construction. When we tried the things on, they were an actual snap fit! Click! There they were, all bolt holes perfectly aligned and an actual secure fit without the bolts!
    The cheaper systems out there seem to be masses of stock steel shapes welded together into a structure much cruder in appearance than the original frame. Elp's are formed throughout, and luck like Henry made them at the same time as the frame.
     
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  12. alchemy
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    If you are going to not use an old Ford transmission, don't waste money on the original frame with original center crossmember. Look further for a less complete frame that you won't be spending as much money for, and install a tube X in it. That center crossmember alone is adding $500 to the price of that stock frame.
     
  13. Or, pull the stock K out and use the money you make off it to buy this :cool:
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  14. thirtytoo
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    With this x-member will i have any future clearance issue with a newer 5 speed manual trans i want to put in down the road..? Also, does this strengthen the frame enough alone or would you still recommend boxing the rails..?



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  15. thirtytoo
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    Yeah, had been looking for months with no luck and finally just went w/ this one hoping to recoup some money on the crossmember..



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  16. I designed this around a Tremec TKO five speed. It also happens that other transmissions have their mounts near the same location.

    I talked to two of my customers at the LA Roadster show this past June that had these installed, both were astounded at how good the frame was without boxing. I have two builds here featuring this X-member, the first one where I developed it; THE M/F'ing HOT ROD and my latest build The Apple Orchard Coupe

    I also have a brake and clutch pedal set for these if you don't want to modify a '39 pedal set. Give me a call if you want to make a package deal. 866-553-8996
     
  17. gimpyshotrods
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    Know how much engineering goes into the stuff at Industrial Chassis, I'd seriously look into this.
     
  18. edwardlloyd
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    That's all we ever hear from you: "it's too expensive". Well that's why you're in the shit can now cos you'd bought a cheap '32 that turned out to be 50% junk and therefore not cheap at all. Quality costs more than junk, but you only have to buy quality once. The 32 frame with title I found you was too expensive obviously as you didn't buy it. An original frame with title is a '32 Ford, everything else is just parts. You passed up on one for $7K, but spent X times that on parts. There are still plenty of frames around but frames with titles are rare. There are hundreds of thousands of rodders out there will pounce on a cheap one.
    Secondly, why do you want a real '32 Ford so badly when you can't tell a genuine part from a fake or even a genuine car from a fake. Seems like it's just to be cool. If that's the case just fix the problems on your frame and drive it. 99% of the population will think you're cool and you can stick up your middle finger to the other 1%.
     
  19. jseery
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    Somewhat funny! LOL I agree with the nothing is cheap part. It is somewhat like the old commercial, pay me now or pay me later. Either way you end up paying in the end, there is normally not a cheap way out on Hot Rods!
     
  20. thirtytoo
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    Well, I guess I would be annoyed too if some new guy came along and in trying to put together his dream car, finally found one he could afford but still spent more than he had and didn't have another $7k for another chassis, and was seeking assistance from fellow enthusiasts as he couldn't be sure of an original frame when he saw one. Like you, I'd also probably tell him why bother now trying to find a frame, just "fix" the one you have and be the cool kid on your block, you're trying to be. I guess you figured me out, maybe some day I'll be as knowledgeable as you..
     

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