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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by RFAGrasshopper, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. RFAGrasshopper
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    1942 FOUR Door one of only 49,000 Super Deluxe made before they stop production in the spring of 1942 for the war. It is all there and very complete and comes with a clear Wisconsin ***le.Here are the two photos of it I have. Help me price this car,fair price not what you want to pay for it but the market value. I am helping a friend(he's 79 and cutting back) sell some of his projects,will post photos and a list of the other cars.
     

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  2. 24,848...1942 Super DeLuxe Fordor Sedan Model 21A-73B were built before the cutoff date.
    But the four door is NOT a desirable car, the two door coupes are far more desirable and worth more.
    The vehicle needs a full restoration, does he have any history on the vehicle?
     
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  3. Gman0046
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    Ricks Garage X2. Not much value there.
     
  4. 22 track
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    The amount of rust is everything on a relatively undesirable 4 door such as this. The pictures do not look encouraging. If this is a Wisconsin car that has been sitting outside for years with vegetation grown up around it, it is possibly rusted enough to be uneconomical to repair. That would be a $500 parts car. A mint body might be worth $2,000 to the right person, but that person may be hard to find for this model.
     
  5. 49ratfink
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    would you buy a car based on those 2 poor photos?

    how are people supposed to figure a value with so little to go on.
     
  6. RFAGrasshopper
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    I'll have more Photos next week. He does have a '42 couple also. Both 1942's were from North Dakota. 22track I think $500 is way to low even for a 4Door. Remember it has a GOOD ***LE!! last time I looked it was hard to find cars with good ***les. I'll more photos of it but would think Min would be $1500 to $2000.
     
  7. lothiandon1940
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    The sad truth is it's just not very desirable and even if it were in better condition it wouldn't bring a lot of dollars. As someone mentioned it would probably cost way more to restore it than it's worth. There are far more reproduction parts available for 1940 Fords and more even for 1941's than this car. If the frame and floor are shot, even with a ***le, it's a parts car in my mind. If the Flathead can be saved it could be worth a few bucks along with the rest of the drivetrain.
     
  8. 56don
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    Sorry, I have to agree. Maybe a parts car.
     
  9. Ulu
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    Here in Fresno county, I'd be asking about $2000 & would expect to get $1500~1800.
    BUT, it wouldn't be all rusted out either. Just surface rust and a few small rust holes would be expected if it was a local car. A car from the mid-west would probably go for half that because the bottom side would be like swiss cheese, and because cars just commonly sell for less there.
     
  10. Squablow
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    If the motor turns over and the wheels roll, you could ask $1500 for that. If the engine is stuck and/or the wheels are froze up, less than a grand. Either way, it's worth more in parts, which is a shame, but true.
     
  11. stanlow69
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    $500 seems a little low. It is a 42, thus they are harder to find. $1000 is a little more reasonable number. It might take a little while to get that number. But it still would be a persons parts car. Or a newbee wanting to fix up an old car. I know a guy who traveled 3 states away and paid more for a lot less. Even though they were coupes. A quick sale would be the $500 dollar range.
     
  12. RFAGrasshopper
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    Guys I'll take more photos of it. BUT it not all rusty. That just the paint pealing. Looked very solid and it runs!!
     
  13. stanlow69
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    Does it move under it`s own power and can you stop it with it`s brakes. In other words, is it drivable.
     
  14. leadsled
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    If it is a solid driver, you might be able to ask $4000 not a driver with a everything there and no rust I suggest $2500 range maybe a touch more. Depends on the local economy. Unless you find someone that has always wanted a 42 four door you can expect it to go to someone local, just my opinion
     
  15. Jimmy2car
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    That is a parts car only. No one wants a 4 door $500.00 is too much
     
  16. gdqcachter
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    The amount of rust is everything on a relatively undesirable 4 door such as this[​IMG]
     
  17. xpletiv
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    Better peel back that carpet. Judging by that rust hole below the headlight at the front pan(?)...
     
  18. A lot of emphasis on a good ***le (which is important), but not enough emphasis on the body being a 4 door and overall body condition. ASKING PRICE of $2,000 to $2,500 is my thought.
     
  19. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    If he's also selling the Coupe, he may be better off including the 4 dr. as a package deal. Let the buyer build the Coupe with the best of the parts, then get the 4 dr. driving and unload it to recoup some investment.
    Even running and ***led the 4 dr. will be a tough sell. As mentioned, 4 dr.'s are the least desireable body style.
    It's been my observation that 1940's 4 dr.'s are generally less desireable than 1930's and 1950's 4 dr.'s. for both restorers and Hot Rodders.

    His target audience would be a really old guy or really young guy entering the hobby, who was on a severely limited budget and was looking to pick up a cheap, fairly solid and complete hobby car to mess around with.
    This could be a retiree with a lot of time/limited funds on his hands or a 20's/30's aged guy with a Wife and kids looking to enter the hobby. Great way to get the family out to the local cruise night and have some fun with a bunch of sweat equity invested. Back in the 80's a friend of ours with 5 kids built out a 47 Ford 4 dr. Wasn't his dream car, but he and the family sure had fun taking it to church, etc after he got it running and painted it himself...
    They could always "trade up" into something else later. We hear all the time that guys can't "get into the hobby" because it's too expensive. It's usually because they won't settle for less than a 30's Ford Coupe or Roadster. Here's a perfect way...
     
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  20. lothiandon1940
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    ^^^^Well said^^^
     
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  21. birdman1
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    I can only laugh at you californication californians! So afraid of RUST! Hell, us guys in the midwest know HOW to handle rust, just takes more time(AND MONEY) i NEVER HAD A CAR TO RESTORE THAT HAD NO RUST, SO IT IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR ME. sorry about the caps lock)
    a 1942 Ford , put it on ebay and sell it!
     
  22. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Sad truth is it's not worth a whole lot,first they probably are near the bottom of the desirability scale and second if you needed and parts they are not readily available.

    With that said,there is always someone that loves a stray dog,you just are not going to get them to pay much for one..

    Put it out there in your local CL and see what happens. HRP
     
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  23. RFAGrasshopper
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    That's not a rust hole!!
     
  24. dorf
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    I don't know about your state, but in ohio the ***le would state that the car is a 4door wich decreases the value of the ***le also . that being said I think the many door models are becoming a little more popular .
     
  25. impala59
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    just my opinion but I think you already have a number in your head on what you think it's worth and I'm sure the owner if he's also a collected has a number in his head to, so just list it on local Craigslist and if you don't get your price then do the eBay
     
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  26. The reading comprehension and visual acuity here is less than stellar. I don't see, in the pix, all of this killer rust that the rest of you see. I also don't see the hole under the headlight. He has stated that it is solid, with peeling paint. Seems to be surface rust, mostly. It runs. It has a clear ***le. With a few days worth of work, it could be a driver. Fordor or not, I'll buy all of them, in this condition, that you can find for 500 bucks each.
     
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  27. Atwater Mike
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    I see these 4 doors quite often, here in "Californication", as the Rust removing king calls it.
    Non runners are advertised for 2k to 2.5k, some rust usually...$1500 for a running one (esp. a '42) would be a 'long deal', with papers and all.
    Lots of interest here, but we have more 'enthusiasts' than points East...
    and many of us can weld. LOL
     
  28. 49ratfink
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    I think the problem with these threads is nobody ever asks "how much would you sell this for if it belonged to you? which brings out the HAMB lowballers club to **** on the car in question.
     
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  29. 42-ford-1.JPG You are right there in not A rust hole below the headlight, there are two......
     
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  30. To put it in perspective, this guy has had this '41 for sale for a while on CL and I've been watching it steadily decrease in price everytime he reposts it by $100. He's askin $800 now and would probably take $500 for it today. Yeah, it doesn't have a ***le but it looks like it has promise and running gear intact. \'41 CL ad #3.jpg \'41 ford CL ad.jpg
     

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