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Hot Rods Good dual Master Cylinder, where to find a good one.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Chris Casny, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. Where could I find a good dual master cylinder, just like this one, but quality built.
    What did this come out of originally?
    Looking to have the two 3/8 ports like the one shown below and the 3/8" fine thread rod as well.

    Help me out here, I'm tired of poor quality/chinese parts.
    Thanks
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  2. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    Chris: There was a parts purveyor going back 10 years or so, name was KANTER. Parts prices were always whole numbers: $10, 20, 30... Never any ".99". (got me a set of N.O.S. rings for my 406. Egge couldn't even get 'em...
    Sales guy said he was sorry he took 4 hours getting back to me, slashed price from $95 to $85, and paid shipping!)

    My son Rich has been using Rock Auto for similar service. Always N.O.S. American parts, no offshore.
    His '63-1/2 Galaxie, '65 Galaxie, and 2-L Pinto have been getting N.O.S. parts made in America.
    Rock Auto has warehouses...This master you're looking for looks to be a '72-'74 Maverick. Don't have original part#, but Rock Auto would know...
    Hope this helps...
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2014
  3. demonspeed
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    Looks fairly similar to the MC in my buddy's '88 Monte Carlo circle track car. Not sure that his is original to the car but it may be. If you're ok with a used one, I would maybe check some old GM poducts and see what you come up with.
     
  4. willowbilly3
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    Is the one pictured the Speedway version? I've been running one for 3 years with no problem
     
  5. need louvers ?
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    I run the Maverick version in a couple of my cars, and the units I have bought through Federated have been American made. I know the Maverick is 1" bore, but a friend uses and swears by the '67-'69 Mustang unit, which my stuff tells me is 15/16" bore. I think I'll be using that next.

    Now both of these come in drum/drum and disc drum configurations, so chose what you need. The Maverick does have staggered sizes on the ports, though. The Mustang I'm not sure of.
     
  6. Apparently the Chinese made better products, three years ago.

    Thanks for all the help everyone.
     
  7. 26hotrod
    Joined: Nov 28, 2009
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    from landis n c

    The one I have came from NAPA with no problems so far. They have a variety to choose from................
     
  8. I looked in my Wagner book and nothing is the same. None have a 1" bore, ports on left side and both ports 3/8-24. Lots without the matching ports sizes though. Also your hard pressed to find one now that isn't reman'ed in China or other various countries.......even Wagner or Bendix. I would go with a local place for warranty ease.
     
  9. Chances are you can buy one that will work at any parts store, and what he said, it's possible to take two or three to get a good one.
     
  10. Devin
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    I'm with you. I've had 2 of the speedway ones like you listed crap out. I just bit the bullet and bought the wilwood tandem. Maybe not traditional, but built right here in California.


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  11. Ronald Bowman
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    I would maybe check some old GM poducts and see what you come up with.
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  12. Mike Miller
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    1967 Ford had a dual master for drum front brakes, I've bought them through NAPA before.
     
  13. Thanks everybody
     
  14. bobss396
    Joined: Aug 27, 2008
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    I just bought a Speedway for my '59... hope it holds up. That master is close to a '73 Mustang disc/drum master and has the Ford 3.2" pattern.
     
  15. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    Has anybody ever seen an OEM master with both ports the same size? I think they made them different sizes to prevent a mechanic from mixing up the lines on reassembly. I bet the two-same-ports thing is a hot rod specialty deal. Buy a good master, and buy the oversize nuts at your local NAPA, and make a couple new lines. The quality of a good master will long outlive the frustration of making a couple new lines.
     
  16. woodiewagon46
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    from New York

    Master Power Brakes, all they do are braking systems for our cars.
     
  17. unkledaddy
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    The stainless steel sleeve definitely isn't OEM.

    This from Pep Boys, and SSBC does stainless sleeving I believe.

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  18. V8 Bob
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    Generally, all OE dual masters had two different sized outlet ports to, as you stated, prevent the primary and secondary systems from being switched during service or replacement. However, some replacement masters do have both ports machined the same, but include an adapter to connect the stock fittings. An example is the '68 F-250 drum/drum master I'm using on my '40, which is really a disc/drum master that can or is used in many applications.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2014

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