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1930 Model A on deuce rails

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by rottenleonard, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. rottenleonard
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    Haha I just read Ryans breaking bad thread. Aperently hallock windshields arent cool anymore......but it would have looked good with the red wheels and flat black paint:p

    Oh well forging on.
     
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  2. rottenleonard
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    Made some more progress on the pattern, material has been added to compensate for shrink when casting. Also shaped and smoothed with body filler.
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    Now it is boxed up and heading to the foundry.
     
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  3. alchemy
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    Nice project! And as a guy who likes to make patterns and cast things, I'm looking forward to seeing the windshield when it's back from the foundry.
     
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  4. El Hueso
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    Just curious, did you make the windshield slightly larger to account for the shrinkage when casting? If so, how'd you account for it when making it? It is looking great!
     
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  5. 383deuce
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    Just went through the whole build to date and am very impressed with your workmanship. The V8 in the firewall is KILLER along with your brake & clutch with gas pedal.
     
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  6. killer craftmanship, coming out really nice.... i dig the firewall....
     
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  7. rottenleonard
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    Thanks. Here are the pedals in the Hot rod deluxe parts with appeal. I should have the ones that will be for sale in a couple of weeks. I have added some features and upgraded the finishwork.

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    Yes that is why it looks a little loose in the pictures. It should **** up tight after casting. I just hope it goes as planned.
     
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  8. rottenleonard
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    So in anticipation of the windshield coming back I finish welded most of the issues in the cowl and installed the new LR Brookville quarter panel. It has some fitment issues but will get there. I had also ordered a new inner fender well from Brookville for the RH quarter but when it arrived it didn't have the step in the front, it was just a flat panel with the beads and the beads were not shaped correctly, decided to chunk it and reordered from Howells

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    Kind of a dark photo but the sub floor spacers worked well.

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    Perfect timing, look what showed up.

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    Looks like it will fit pretty well

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    Thought I should mock up the 3X2's

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    I really like the profile of the windshield.

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  9. A Boner
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    Hope you are going into production with the windshield frame. Also hope they are reasonably priced. Once you have the pattern perfected, the actual casting costs are very reasonable. I have a foundry friend....pm me if your casting costs are too high.
     
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  10. rottenleonard
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    Oh definitely, The guy I have do my fuel tank ends is casting the frames for me too, He always surprises me with the excellent cost and quality of the castings. I have to tool up to polish the castings and cut the windshield groove, I should have them up for sale by the end of the year.
     
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  11. kidcampbell71
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    Whoah....everything awesome....carry on, please.
     
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  12. brady1929
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    That looks awesome!
     
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  13. rottenleonard
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    Thanks I appreciate it.
     
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  14. El Hueso
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    That looks killer!!!
     
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  15. Hot Rod Cowboy
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    I really like this car! And nice job on the windshield.
     
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  16. rottenleonard
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    Thanks The windshield should be back again from the foundry this week(I made some adjustments to make it better) I'll post some updates.
     
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  17. Malcolm
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    Windshield frame and profile turned out great --- nice work!
     
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  18. rottenleonard
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    Been a little swamped with the business lately but I did get the first batch of windshield frames with the gl*** groove cast in. They really came out nice.
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    Might be a little slow on the posts as I'm getting ready to move out of the back yard into a proper shop.
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  19. Nice digs Leonard. First time in a dedicated "commercial" building with your name on it?
     
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  20. A Boner
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    Have you determined a price for the Hallock windshields yet?
     
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  21. rottenleonard
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    Thanks, yes this is a big step but way overdue.
     
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  22. rottenleonard
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    I have to build the jigs for the mounting holes still, hopefully I will get time to do that in the next couple weeks. I am going to list the frames without gl*** at $695, I still Need to get with the waterjet guys for gl*** pricing. Pm me if interested.
     
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  23. brady1929
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    I might be interested in one.
     
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  24. rottenleonard
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    Well I'm into the new shop and really liking it. Starting to get closer to being cought up so I put a little time into the roadster. We had a little discussion about windshield shape herehttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/hallock-windshield-shape-what-do-you-think.960463/#post-10857814

    I worked up a jig for drilling the mounting holes in the bottom of the windshield frames then drilled and taped for 5/16 threads with helicoil inserts for added strength.
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    Next up was transferring the holes to the cowl, by making a line accross the bottom of the frame and up the outer faces I could then remount the frames and tracer the marks to the cowl. At that point I just had to mark the hole center 13/16" from the front of the lines. I then drilled the holes with a uni bit to 7/16 to give some adjustment room.
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  25. Jeff Norwell
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    Outstanding build.
    Outstanding talent.
     
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  26. rottenleonard
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    In order to drill the outer mounting holes threw the A pillars I hopped on the lathe and turned out a drill bushing out of an old 5/16" stud. With the bushing threaded in from inside of the cowl I drilled threw the frame from inside of the car, this ensured proper placement of the mounting hole.
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    Next I used a 1/4" center drill to open up the hole and countersunk it for a slotted oval head stainless steel machine screw. Turns out they don't make them in 5/16" nft so I used a 1/4" nct with a nut on the inside of the A pillar. This was sort of a good thing as Henry's threads were sort of worn from the last 80 years of cross threading and rust.

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    After proper mounting the individual frames were beveled and tig welded to each other. They are now ready for final shaping and polishing.
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    It was a super nice day yesterday so I threw open the door for some glam shots. The waterjet guys cut the wrong file for the gl*** shape........because I gave them the wrong file.... so they are recutting it this week with the correct curved upper suggested by Jimmyb here on the HAMB.
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  27. El Hueso
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    Congrats on the new shop! The roadster is looking great!
     
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  28. rottenleonard
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    Thanks Jeff that means a lot coming from you.
     
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  29. rottenleonard
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    Thanks man!


    I spent some time filling and filing the frames then couldn't help but throw a quick and dirty polish job on it.
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  30. I like the new shop. Looks like things are moving along nicely!
     
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