A the ***le states, my father in law has a pretty stockist 1950 F1. We are going to do an ifs swap on and drop in a 5.3L 40 combo. I am building a 28 Tudor and was looking and apparently the 35 wires won't work with these brakes, but will the 40 ford wheels? Unless the wires will work I have 6 of them I'd love to use. I'm running fenders and 7.50X16 rears so need everything to work out with this. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
F1 brakes are great. Many pros to them. They fit behind 40-48 wheels as well as 15" steelies and you can get parts for them pretty cheap/easy. However, getting a hoop steering arm into them is a difficult task. The cylinder and grease shield want to be in the way. I still haven't sorted that out to my satisfaction.
Hmm, Well that is good and bad news. On one hand I love the 35 Ford wire wheels, on the other hand I am cheap and these brakes are awfully Free so they are hard not to use. But if the steering is going to be a big pain in the ***, then IDK. will Disc brakes fit the 40's ford wheels?
Only the HOOP style arms are a problem because the bolt is on the inside. Any other steering arm that is internally threaded or has a flange that bolts up is not an issue. Don't fret, just use a slingshot style of you need a top steering arm.
I ran a hoop steering arm on my F100 brakes, and I don't recall having any problems with it. You do have to grind the spindle a little to clear the wheel cylinder.
Good deal. Anyone have any insight on the disc brakes and 40 ford wheels? Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I have been working on a disc brake setup that will fit 40 Ford wheels along with wide fives. Start a conversation if you want to know the details. Jim Ford
Adding a 1.98 question for the 35 wire wheels on later drum experts. Are you saying that they can't be bolted on F-1 drums using the adapter ring like is done on 4o style drums? Can someone clarify this?
I'm wondering 5 he same as I have 6 35 wire wheels in great shape that are free. But I have to buy the 40 ford wheels. If I can make this work my whole braking and wheels will be done for less than $200.00 Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I don't have the car anymore, but there was no trick to installing the steering hoop. It just bolted together. Hot rodders have been using F1 brakes on early Ford spindles with hairpin style steering arms since the 50's.
The wires don't fit the later brakes because the drum has a flat face and the 40 has a tapered drum. With the 40 drums you still need the wheel lip support spacer. You can use Lincoln self energizing brakes with the 40 drums ( actually 37-48) or you can use 53-56 3/4 ton backing plates. use the search tool to see how. Jim Ford
Thanks for all the input on this guys. I found a set of 40 ford drums I'm going to run the 35 wires I already have Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Remember you still need adapters with the wires on 40 ford drums. If you don't know what I mean see: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/40-ford-wheels-on-a-model-a.750368/#post-8330045 Charlie Stephens
I know about the adapters, thanks though. Ill grab some from Speedway, since I will be needing 2 sets of these since we are doing a resto on a 35 Ford as well and swapping to juice brakes. I do have one question, will the 35 wires bolt up to the stock Model A brakes without adapters? I want to get my new wheels and tires on the car and play around with it this weekend and don't have all the brakes ready yet.
I think about a third of the local Model A club runs 35 wires with 16 inch tires on their otherwise bone stock Model A's from what I've seen.
I had some interference when I went to ***emble one into my F1 plate a while back but I haven't gotten back to that project yet. I seem to recall some other guys ran into an issue with the hoops too, at least the ones that are common on the market right now. Here's a pic of a 35 on an A drum BTW:
If the car was built with wires any year wires will fit. In other words late 27-35 are interchangeable. This is only for Ford of course.
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