Passing this along on behalf of a friend who is going to be a dealer/distributor for the new 97's being produced, the new 97's are done and being shipped to distributors soon and being dyno tested right now. I know this has been a topic on here in the past and there has been some interest, and I know a few of you that want to get your hands on some of these. Just thought you might want to see some pictures of them, they look great. Some info on them can be seen at: www.stromberg-97.com. Adam
Hate to say it, but with all the hype over what feels like years, I will believe it when I see one in the flesh ( which will probably be when one of you post) good to see tho, so is the leak inbuilt or extra?
Yeah, I have been anticipating these for a while now as well...that picture IS an actual carb being shipped, not a prototype. This will be VERY soon and VERY worth the wait. The leaks actually help the air and fuel mix more efficiently, I thought you knew this!
I think you can build a ford without one original part! It's cool to have replacement parts but, make the part unique. Having a 53 chev truck, it becomes boring or too easy to buy repo parts. Also having a 40 merc coupe, it becomes a quest for parts. At first it seems cool, but I become split on certain repo'd parts. Good luck! Ken
Massive undertaking. I can't even pretend to know how much effort it took to do this. It certainly has taken a lot longer than they originally let on that it would - and no one I know of is actually holding one in their hand yet - but still amazing that someone would think to take this on. I'd love to see a parts list with prices.
So they haven't even been sold yet and they've ALREADY got rebuilders....that's not what I'd call confidence in the product!
I don't see Uncle Max's post, was it deleted? Uncle Max is a real good guy and a very talented hot rodder, he does some amazing stuff with a flathead. He is also very open with info and answers questions freely. I told him about the HAMB and that there was quite a bit of talk about the new 97's, he was just trying to let you know where to go get 'em. I will let him know to do an intro if he hasn't already... Adam
I saw (and held!) one of the new 97's at a show over here late last year and they are a damn fine piece of kit.
On the defense here; What I meant by authorized rebuilder was that yes, the boys in England have given me that designation to rebuild OLD 97's with their NEW parts. I have sent out 44 carbs since last September (yes, I keep a log) using their parts. Inside and out, top to bottom, their parts are spot-on perfect. I will soon be a dealer for the new carbs and pre-packaged parts as well. Non-wizards need not respond.
These look absolutely wonderful, but the price is going to be a stumbling block for many of us. (Read "I am poor") I'd love to have a six pack of these on my nailhead, but it'd cost more than the car! Even for a 3 deuce setup you'll be looking at a grand or more. Still, for those who have the scratch, it is nice to be able to order brand new, no hassle carbs.
Your right. Even for trips on a flathead, you start getting into hilborn injection prices. That's why I wonder if replacement pieces are available. They'd probably sell more pieces than carbs. New main bodies, new bases with throttle plates, new air horns, new linkage, all things guys would buy individually.
From what I read, yes, there is a complete line of replacement parts that work in the new carbs as well as the originals.
Thanks for posting, I am in the market for some 97's. The price is not out of line with rebuilt prices I have seen. Gordon
the price quoted in the link at top was 398 each. they do sound like they are shooting for perfection, we'll see. they'll be great for high end trad rods, but the thing is, the guys who are building high end rods will hunt for cherry originals. i think the price point to shoot for on these should be sub 300 and they'd sell like hotcakes. not that my opinion matters a bit, strombergs do little for me, i'm in love with the asthetics of the holley glass bowl one barrels! i want to do a six pack of em on a hemi one of these days.
Amazing, isn't it, how much it costs and how much effort it requires to tool up and produce what was a low-cost, high volume part back in the technologically crude 1930s? Still, how cool is that, really? Parts are now available new that haven't been since Roosevelt was in office. I wonder, comparitively, what a new replacement Stromberg 97 cost in 1948 from a dealer. It would be interesting to do a comparison between the amount they cost then as a precentage of average income versus the new piece. We could toss in a new replacement Holley or something too, as further comparison. Anybody have that info handy? Bruce Lancaster maybe?
Well, since these carbs are built from scratch, they will have anything you could want for replacement parts. As for the price, seems about right for the amount of work that went into them and how much they cost to produce, and the quality of the final product. We have all seen how much these things go for now, just for a barely rebuildable core! Maybe he is just covering costs for now and the price will go down but, considering they are brand new, seems like a fair deal. I am just impressed by the huge undertaking that it was for them, and that they actually followed through! Adam Bigcheese327, that does sound like an interesting idea, I would like to see that as well, out of curiosity.
To find an authorized dealer or rebuilder, just go to their website. www.stromberg-97.com. There are several of us on there. Every part is available for the carb and their stuff is second to none. Those are the only parts I use on my rebuilds. Dealer suggested retail is $395.00. The price will be the only stumbling block for these carbs as the quality is top notch. But we must remember, it cost a tremendous amount of capitol to undertake this venture. Tooling cost alone must have been through the roof. I got an email from Clive Prew (the guy making the new carbs) a few years ago and at that point they had......well, he told me what they had in it at that point but it's not for me to say publicly, let's just say it was a WHOLE LOT O DOUGH!!! PM me if you need any further info or help. Matt
Speaking of Brookville. Kenny and Ray told me they had over $1,000,000 in dies alone to do the '32 roadster, and that was over 15 years ago (wonder what it would be in 1006 dollars) Care to guess what they invested to get the '32 3w dies made. But with that said there have been MANY here who have called them crooks for the price they have on the Roadster. Just like Brookville I appaude the builders of the new "97" and wish them the best in this venture. Frank
I have to say that Stromberg 97 guys has done a hell of a job. After I started as a dealer for Stromberg 97 and saw the quality of their parts I don´t miss those "cheapo chinese" rebuilt kits. Here´s one example: I´m gonna have the first set of new carbs in the middle of next week. Jaypee
Max, nice to see you over here on HAMB, dont let some rudeness bother you as this is one of the few forums that requires an intro before a general post. No biggie! Ive some 48's that should be rebuilt, what is available new for them? And maybe I should get out my 97 stash and go thru them with new parts. Ive just been tossing them in boxes.
286 - Hope I'm doing this right. . . Thanks for the welcome! About the only things different with 48's vs 97's, not including venturis, is the jet and powervalve size, 48's have slightly shorter accelerator pump rods and do not have the provision for the choke detent. Choke kicker is slightly different as well. The lads in England have every size jet and powervalve available for your 48's. Most of the other parts are the same. Cheers! Yer Uncle
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