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Hot Rods Diamond Back Tires Will Never Do it!!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fleet_47, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. fleet_47
    Joined: Oct 19, 2008
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    It seems like Diamond Back Tires will never release the modern radial that has the look of a bias ply. They just keep pushing back the release date, I've heard it's been their pattern for a couple years. I don't understand this method of telling the public "coming next quarter" ...quarter after quarter?
    http://www.dbtires.com/2013_catalog/hi/22.htm
     
  2. 3wLarry
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  3. fordcpe
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    I have been waiting on there 225 or 235/75R14 tires for two years called last month and sounds like never to me.
     
  4. ol-nobull
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    I don't have a clue when if ever but I sure wish they would get something going except delays & promises. I have been waiting almost a year putting off buying something else & I am supposed to be on the list for the first order arrival whenever they do come in as they have ***ured me of that.

    My problem on going elsewhere is as far as I can tell nobody else is offering the original 16" narrow tire sizes in a radial & I sure do not want to change the look on my car to fat tires just to get radials. Because of this I will wait a bit longer as long as I do not blow one of the old tires on my Chevy then I will be forced to do something. At least my old bias tires still do not show wear or cracking.

    Although I am making changes under the hood with a hopped up 235 engine, I want the entire outside & interior of the car to have the "original" look. I am doing basically about the same as I did my cars back in the 50's with dual carbs & exhaust & a good street cam.

    And what I like very much about these Auburn's is they have the same pattern as bias tires and they are getting DOT approval to just have the tires marked on only 1 side like original tires of that period so all tire sizing & markings will be on the opposite side of tire to the whitewall. They are supposed to look exactly like a bias tire & that to me is their big selling feature if they ever get to selling them.

    Although I will never race my Chevy I do plan for it to be a car for daily hwy driving at today's speeds & to be a car show & tour & cruise event car & being retired I will be able to go to a bunch of this stuff.

    For my needs I do believe that the Auburn's will be my best choice if they will ever get them released. I know my post is being very defensive of the tires but to me they ar my best choice. Hurry up DB.

    Jimmie
     
  5. Mike
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    Radial tires that look like
    bias plys?

    I hear that the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy will be producing them next spring.
     
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  6. Texas Webb
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    ^^^^^^^Too damn funny.:D
     
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  7. flatheadpete
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    How about bias ply tires that look like....wait for it.....bias ply tires? They're available.
     
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  8. prpmmp
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  9. ol-nobull
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    Hi Pete. If you notice in both links you posted that there are NO 16" tire sizes listed or offered. Jimmie
     
  10. prpmmp
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    Sorry!! Did not notice size!!! Pete
     
  11. loveoftiki
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    Ok... My 61 sunliner has Sears guardsman 14" bias .. Static drop car... Rides like a dream.... **** I almost fell asleep on the 2.5 hour ride over to relix this summer.... No issues.... I ain't autocrossing it.....
     
  12. ol-nobull
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    Hi again. Read the post on the sears guardsman bias tires & it came to mind that my tires on my Chevy Coupe in my avitar are Allstate 600/16 bias ply tires from Sears. I have no clue when they stopped making them but the previous owner in Kansas restored the car around the winter of 1989-90 time frame & I suspect the tires are at least that old with only about a thousand miles on them. Does anyone have a better estimate on age for these old Allstate tires?
    The Car had always been stored in an enclosed garage with a car cover on it & the tires still show no cracking or weather aging other than fading of the whitewalls. Treads don't even show any wear.
    When I bought it last year the tires did not even thump when driven like I expeted. No flat spots from sitting. It is just scary thinking about how old they are & as this car will be a daily hwy driver for me very soon & I feel that new tires are needed for safety.
    When I replace these with radials I have a small teardrop trailer that I will get some wheel adapters for & use these on it as the trailer only weights about 500# & they should be fine there.
    Jimmie
     
  13. Nobull, They dont have a date stamp on them anywhere, even down low by the bead area somewhere?
     
  14. ol-nobull
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    I will have to look for the date stamp but my car is in the shop in San Antonia right now finishing up a bunch of engine work & is 2 hours away from me. Hopefully it will be done next week & I can go pick it up then.
    Jimmie
     
  15. Mike
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    With bias ply tires, time is really not the enemy. Tire condition is what is important. I am running '60s vintage Englewood bias ply cheater slicks on the back of my '63 Impala. They were NOS when I put them on the car 10 years ago. I have put at least 6000 miles on them including many summer time trips across the desert from Phoenix to California with no problems, and they are still going strong.

    With radial tires, time is the enemy. Radials have steel belts. Steel and rubber / nylon do not like to stick together, so in time, they will separate, no matter what condition they are in..
     
  16. fleet_47
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    The latest email from Diamond Back says they'll be available Spring 2015. We'll see...
     
  17. HOLLYWOOD GRAHAM
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    My bias ply tires were 14 years old, two of them lost their tread. One was a near crash into a guard rail, the other not that bad . Don’t trust any tire that is old.
     
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  18. Eh, if you're going to drive the car hard, then just put radials on and deal with how it looks. If it's a cream puff and not going to see enough miles to wear out the tires in 7-10 years then bias are fine, even old ones. I've moved a lot of old cars with bias tires with tubes and only had problems with a couple of really ****py tires I never should have used in the first place.

    When radials get old they can potentially blow up or fall apart with zero warning, I even had one blow up with a bang that had been off the vehicle and stacked on it's side in a warehouse for a couple months.
     
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  19. Hot Rod Rodney
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    I run bias-plies on all my hot rods - they handle excellently, no sidewall roll. Don't know what kind of car you have, but for old Ford suspension radials are vastly over-rated and totally unnecessary.
     
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  20. Gary Addcox
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    I've seen your coupe at Kris' house. We live in the same neighborhood. The vacuum shift on late '40's Chevies came up in a conversation. Your ride looks so era-perfect. Do you know LeRoy Menning, Jr.? He has/had several old rides a while back.
     
  21. Hitchhiker
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    They are just tires....If you use the thing as intended, then they will wear out. Then you can buy new ones. Maybe Diamond back will have there **** figured out by then.
     
  22. bondolero
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    They been saying spring of.........since 2012.
     
  23. prewarcars4me
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    Buy bias for now, then IF they ever get the radials worked out, sell your bias tires.
     
  24. fleet_47
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    Latest from DB... It's a no go!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  25. arkiehotrods
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    My old Ford runs nice and smooth on it's 6.00 - 16 bias ply tires. I drive it on curvy mountain roads, interstate, and everywhere else and have not had any handling issues. I don't autocross it, but it's not a "pro-touring" car either.
     
  26. ct1932ford
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    I waited and then realized it was not going to happen. Bought bias Firestones (Coker) and they perform great on my coupe. Maybe they will be out when I need tires next time.:rolleyes:
     
  27. This makes me sooo sad, can't get radio tires that look like something else. :rolleyes:

    I discovered something a long time ago in there world there are those that think they are cool, those that look cool and those that are cool. Choose one and be it.
     
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