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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Hot Rod 50, Jan 9, 2015.

  1. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
    Posts: 500

    Hot Rod 50
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    Well I can finally post in this forum, traded my 53 chevy 4 door for this, in my opinion, nice a chassis. The motor is supposed to run, going to give it a shot tomorrow. Nice solid frame and the mechanical brake stuff moves freely and the trans goes into a all gears. It was rebuilt recently. The frame shows to be April of 29. Can't tell if it was a coupe or what no motor numbers so not sure exactly what it is.

    Plans are pretty simple. Banger coupe in the late 40's style. Dropped okie joe axle, leaves pulled from rear spring, mechanical brakes. Black steel wheels and black wall bias plys. 5 inch chop no channel. I have a 32 grill shell but I'm not sure I'll use it. Banger speed parts as I can afford them.

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    Any and all guidance is greatly appreciated
     
  2. mike bowling
    Joined: Jan 1, 2013
    Posts: 3,559

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    Welcome to the wonderful world of Model A's! Looks like you've got a great start-clean as a pin.If it's your first A and you're basically going stock (drivetrain and brakes), there's a couple of books by Les Anderson ( one's green and one's red- I lent mine out so don't know the publisher) you can get from Mac's and probably Snyder's that are excellent.Pricey but worth the money(30-35 each). Tons of Model A guys on here so plenty of backup! Pictures are a must as you progress.Good luck, and have fun. Mike
     
  3. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Hot Rod 50
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    Thanks Mike. Hey what wheels will fit on these axles. it seems like I've heard something about running a spacer ring to make the drum flush for steel wheels?
     
  4. Donald A. Smith
    Joined: Feb 19, 2011
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    Donald A. Smith
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    from Brook In.

    I am doing a 31 and going Boat Tail speedster I will be following your build! Welcome aboard Don
     
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  5. It is a definite yes on the spacer. This post will show the problem but it is really slanted to wire wheels on hydraulic drums (which need a different spacer),
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/40-ford-wheels-on-a-model-a.750368/#post-8330045
    I have heard they you may be able to grind down the ridge or raised areas but others have said that you cannot. My solution would be to go to hydraulic brakes.

    Charlie Stephens
     
  6. Just my $ .02 on the spacer issue.
    Personal experience with wires on hydraulic
    drums. I've run 4 different sets of wires, 16 inch and 17 inch
    on my A for probably 40,000 miles and 10 years.
    Never used a spacer, never had a problem.
    Problems with cracking happen more from
    running hard or "racing".
    You gotta remember that for the most part,
    These cars we run today don't get run anywhere
    near as hard as they did back in the day.
    That's where the spacer was born.
    It doesn't hurt to run them.
    They are not expensive.
    Some of us still just like livin' on the edge!
     
  7. Model A Gomez
    Joined: Aug 26, 2006
    Posts: 1,829

    Model A Gomez
    Member

    Model A's are great, have three at the moment. Sold the avatar years ago. It was fathead powered, building another fathead powered 30 Sport Coupe. Stock 29 coupe and a 30 pickup with inserted bagger motor. One thing to remember is that with a stock drive train they are 50 - 55 mph car. I use my pickup as a daily driver but mostly in town. Nothing in the serial number tells the body style. The serial number is stamped on a pad above the radiator hose on the left side of the motor and on the left side of the frame behind the front body mount bolt hole.
     
  8. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
    Posts: 500

    Hot Rod 50
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    Thanks guys, I found the serial number on the frame. It's gone on the motor, or its a replacement that didn't get stamped. If I'm reading the number right it's an April 29 car.
    a139XXXX
     
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  9. TULSA
    Joined: Sep 27, 2008
    Posts: 659

    TULSA
    Member
    from Tulsa

    Nice start!

    Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
     
  10. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
    Posts: 500

    Hot Rod 50
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    Thanks. As far as it being a 50-55 mph car. At first that's fine. I just want to get the stance right and get it running and driving. Then I'll start on the hop up parts and more speed. I'm going to have this car for a long time. I've been dreaming about it for a decade. So there's plenty of time for changes. I already have a 50 merc flat head when I decide to go that route. It's main use will be after I get home from work for whatever errands I have to do and weekends. I do plan to drive the snot out of it though. Just not much on the highway at first.
     
  11. you are in the right place.
    Tons of great banger threads here.
    Good luck1
     
  12. Welcome! A's are addicting for sure.
     
  13. Raiman1959
    Joined: May 2, 2014
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    Raiman1959

    You have a really nice project....love that old-school look from any stance...just plain cool!!!
     
  14. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Hot Rod 50
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    Thanks guys. I asked this in the banger thread but is there any reason it would be dumb to stay 6 volt. I'll be going all new cloth wiring and no accessories. Ign, head and tail lights and blinkers will be the only electrics.
     
  15. Again My $02. It worked for 85 years,
    It can still work. Unless you are anal, stay with 6 volts,
    It's more "period correct!"
    PS. I'll get good pix of the steering column tomorrow.
    I just finished my day!
     
  16. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Hot Rod 50
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    Cool thanks tony
     
  17. chudm71
    Joined: Aug 27, 2009
    Posts: 55

    chudm71
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    from Perryton

    Just FYI that starter is 12V.
     
  18. What makes you say that the starter is 12 volts? I am not trying to argue or disagree just trying to learn what to look for.

    Charlie Stephens
     
  19. chudm71
    Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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    chudm71
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    from Perryton

    I use to own the Chassis about a year ago. Came off of a 390 or 460 can't remember been a while... Model A starters have a push button box on top that bolts to the starter housing.
     
  20. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Hot Rod 50
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    Hey cool. Are you the guy Kyle got it from? So whats the story on the motor? Should it run?
     
  21. bondojunkie
    Joined: May 31, 2008
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    do those starters bolt right up to an A engine or did you do something to adapt it?
     
  22. I never looked at the starter, just assumed!
    I'm dying to hear the answer on that starter!
    Also, just for some more fun,
    I've been starting my flathead for 11 years
    with 12 volts on a 6 volt Ford starter!
    No problem at all!
     
  23. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Hot Rod 50
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    You and me both Tony

    Who's car is this? It's perfect and I have LOTS of questions
     

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  24. chudm71
    Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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    from Perryton

    Starter off a 390, 352 or 460 and the shaft diameter was the same as model a just changed the bendix drive. My Uncle did the conversion and has since passed. Tony I have used 12 volts on my 6 volt starts also with no issues...
     
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  25. chudm71
    Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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    chudm71
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    from Perryton

    Kyle got it from the guy I sold it to ???? The engine ran but needed rings. I would drop the pan that oil has been in there for 25+ years. That frame is pretty straight and you could read the number on it. If you need any parts let me know. I got a few and could help you out. Glad to see it went to a guy on the HAMB.
     
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  26. That green Banger coup is way cool!
    I learned something about starters!
    HAMB never lets you down!
    thanks chudm71!
     
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  27. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Thanks chudm71. I'll pm you and see what you have.
     
  28. Okie Pete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2008
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    You need to find a Gleaner Baldwin pull type combine . They had model A engines that have a magneto for spark . Look for a pull type combine with galvanized sheet metal all other manufactures were painted.
     
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  29. Hot Rod 50
    Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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    Ok cool. I'll look around. There's a farmer just down from us that has a ton of old stuff like that. A magneto would be way cool.

    Thanks
     
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