so lets say you do a full frame swap , wether it be a full size gm under a merc or an s-10 under a chevy truck. couldnt you ***le it under its donor frame? seeing as its the whole ch***i its realy just as much an s-10 as it is a 48 chevy? just thought it may be around some ***ling problems for some. and for that mater what if you used everything from a donnor car but with the frame you just used the front sub frame? think itd still work? just wondered how that would all work seeing as handing over a ***le/registration that says 1983 chevy land barge when your clearly driving an early 50s might go over a little harsh with the officer at your window. just a thought tim
Most states abide by the "the year it most resembles" theory. IE =if it were ***led as an S10 1988 as per its ch***is,it would confuse an officer when he called in the tag for a traffic stop. so it would then have to be VIN inspected and re ***led as a 40 ford etc........ I don't know what everones problem is- for the 125 dollars it costs to get a legal no ******** ***le from International ***le service [or the like] its really worth it not to have to jump thru all the local hoops just to satisfy their need for sales taxes ..... . http://www.ITS-***les.com
Some states are picky about anything from a ***le service. MN will not accept anything from Broadway ***le for example.
Most people take the path of least resistance. This is especially true of buerecrats, as thinking doesnt seem to be a requisite. Of course there are abandond or lean ***les if your state is real picky.
Tim, you're living in Nebraska now. It's different than Iowa was and not a "better" different. In this state, you have to use whatever part had the VIN on it. Late models have the VIN on the body. Gm's had the VIN on the VIN plate, riveted to the body, so you're required to ***le that vin plate in Nebraska. If it's a 1950 Chevy VIN plate riveted to a damn 83 cutl***, you ***le the car as a 50 chevy. If it's an early ford, the VIN is stamped in the frame rail and that number had better match the ***le. If you're attempting to register an out of state car in Nebraska, the nice people at the state inspection stations will be happy to inspect your car's VIN to make sure it matches your VIN on your out of state ***le. If it doesn't match? You may get your car impounded until you get the snafu straightened out. At any rate, you will not get a Nebraska ***le and therefor, you will not get a legal registration or new nebraska license plates. If you already have a current, valid Nebraska ***le on your car, in somebody else's name, you can simply have the ***le changed to your name [provided the previous owner has signed off on the correct line on the ***le] for a measly $14. No inspection involved. To answer your question, if you cut out the stamped VIN from an 83 cutl*** and tack weld or duct-tape it to your favorite '19 Maxwell roadster body, ***le and license the "car" as an 83 cutl***, the State of Nebraska will prolly feed and house you for several months for free. They know the difference between a Maxwell and an 83 Gutl***.
There are a couple more issues to think about. Insurance for one. I have '54 Chevy 1/2-ton cab that I was thinking I'd drop on a later 1-ton and make into a car hauler. What's my insurance company going to say if I have an accident and loose a car off the back? I don't care to find out. The 1-ton frame I'm planning to use is from a motorhome, which in this state (Washington) is licensed as a p***enger vehicle. Its not hard to tell p***enger plates from cargo plates in Washington. It seems to me that running the motorhome plates on a car hauler is just asking for road side inspections. So I dragged home a 1-1/2 ton Chevy truck so I can use its VIN to get cargo type plates on this truck and not look like I'm playing games with the insurance company. Mostly I'm trying not to attrack the wrong kind of attention. I've no idea what the rules are where you live but its worth doing a little research...
Most late model frames have the vin stamped on them. If its ***led as say an '88 S-10 then it doesn't matter where you live you are still required to meet fed. regs. I personaly see it as a loose,loose situation. The other thing you're going to run into is that the cop at the window is going to see old edsel alley ostrich and not '88 S-10. Perception is everything. You may win in court, but what is going to be left of your ride when you get it back from the impound yard. Use your ***le as proof that you own the ch***is, get a notorized bill of sale for the body and another one for the mill and ****** and shoot for a salvage ***le. Most states only require that you use a seperate ch***is, drive train and body for a salvage ***le. Or if you want to give it a shot and risk the whole court/impound and playing punch 'n' judy with bubba at the county slammer I got an S-10 ***le and tag. Its not real collectable but you could use it for display pourposes if you wanted to.
Somewhat related... How do you ***le a homemade frame (2x4 rect. steel) with a cowl or tub you found in ravine without any known owner?
Anyone from Colorado have a word on this? I have an 82 S-10 I'm getting ready to start work on dropping a 48-54 body on and was wondering how it would be ***led and if it matters that the vin on the body and the win on the frame don't match? Thanks, Primo
1927 Ford Coupe + Model A Frame + 8RT Flathead = 2005 Homebuilt "1927 Model T" in Kansas. Didn't matter that 95% was built before 1950. The engine's what did it to me. If I'd used a Model T engine, I could have ***led it as such. So now I pay damn near the same price to register the rod as I do my '05 Mustang.
I have rebuilt several totaled S-10 trucks and blazers, and to my knowledge there is no VIN on the frames. I could be wrong but I have never seen one that had a vin on it.
Well, if you try to sell it to someone who does have to deal with smog ****, they may not buy it (like me ). Try your hardest to make it an older vehicle.
S-10 do have VINs stamped on the frmae. If I remember right, it's on the driver's side about halfway down on the topside. You'll probably have to use some sandpaper to bring it out. Karl
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