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Pinstriping question?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rockabillybassman, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. I just got my first brush with which I'm gonna try my hand at striping. It's a Mack 00, 20 series (green ferrule). Two questions, I cant get 1 shot down here, so I figure I'll use standard gloss enamel and thin with mineral turtentine. Will this work OK? Next, My brush is brand new and is all fluffy and unshaped. What prep do I need to do to it to make it useable? Do I need to trim it to sword shape?
     
  2. Neo Dutch
    Joined: Jun 6, 2004
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    from OZ

    Dude,

    Sometimes they have a preservative in the hair so it doesn't get all messed up in displays. Wash it with warm soapy water first. Dry it off and dip it in what ever preserver you are going to use. Squeeze it right down into the wrappings. Wash it in turps and start striping. After you have used it a few times there may be a need to trim it. Do that now.

    Any enamel will do for practice. Get some black, white, red and blue and practice, practice, practice. That will get you started while you source some 1-Shot. Try going to a sign writer. Many aren't on the brushes any more and may have a couple of cans they'll be willing to part with.
     
  3. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    I would strongly suggest you not trim it until
    you have a good understanding of how it works.
     
  4. Thanks for the great advice! One more teensy question... what is the difference between 1shot and regular enamel?
     
  5. 55olds88
    Joined: Jul 23, 2001
    Posts: 2,386

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    Catch a look at Scotty Bare or Steve Levine this weekend, I know Scotty will be working at the show I was parked next to him last weekend, reminds me to find stuff for him to stripe.......
     
  6. 55olds88
    Joined: Jul 23, 2001
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    Catch a look at Scotty Bare or Steve Levine this weekend, I know Scotty will be working at the show I was parked next to him last weekend, reminds me to find stuff for him to stripe.......
     
  7. Oldsmobucket
    Joined: Dec 11, 2005
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    be careful when you trim it , i have always been very conservitive in triming. i trim the wild hairs only after i have used the brush a few times. you could try to find ronan lettering enamal also. ive used the sieres 20 brushes, but have better luck with the seires 10. practice practice practice. good luck
     
  8. Been striping for fifty years and would never allow water to touch a striping brush. Use mineral spirits between your fingers to wash out the brush stroking out and away from the ferrule. Find brush oil from a sign supply house to use in the brush between uses. If you can't find brush oil, use transmission fluid as a substitute. Make sure all traces of paint are out of the brush, using mineral spirits, then dry by wiping after using, again stroking out and away from the ferrule. Then work the brush oil into the bristles again stroking out and away from the ferrule. Store on a flat surface and make sure the bristles are straight.
    When you go to use again, rinse the brush oil out with spirits, using the above methods

    My suggestions.
     
  9. pimpin paint
    Joined: May 31, 2005
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    Hey,

    1 Shot uses some of the best pigments available any where in the known world. Also, the varnishes that the pigments are ground into, are second
    to none. I'm betin the oils, used as binder in the formulation, are some very
    good chit, as well. I have yet to see a light pastel colour yellow off with age.

    Regular enamel? I guess yer talkin house paint? or perhaps old automotive
    enamel (alkyd), isn't any where in the same league. Cheaper , less pure
    pigments, poorly formulated binders and solvents. You can use alkyd to
    pratice with by adding boiled linseed oil and turps, but it will never rival
    1Shot!
     
  10. yo! r.b.bassman! I have been playing with this stuff for about a year and really enjoy it. Just me me,the brush,the paint ,tthe pppaint ttttthhhhinnnnneeerrr fffuuumzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!:eek: :D :D L.O.L . okay enough of this seriousenes, lets get silly. oh thats still backwards. how ever the eastwood company sells 1shot mail order try EASTWOOD.COM for a good place to start.video's brushes supplys etc. have fun with it and keep practicing with good ventilation:rolleyes: I still dont feel I am good enough to do anybodys car......yet! r.r.
     
  11. blown240
    Joined: Aug 2, 2005
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  12. Well, I've been practicing about 2 hours a day for four days, and I'm ready to do my car! :D Not..... mebbe in about five years....... holy mackerel, this is hard shit!
    Rubberrodder..... I cant import paint into New Zealand, so I'm stuck with using regular enamel with a touch of linseed oil and mineral turps. I will check to see if I can get signwriting enamel which may be better quality than regular crap.
    My lines look like I've got Parkinson's Disease......:mad:
     
  13. whodaky
    Joined: Dec 6, 2003
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    Here in Auatralia we are able to get 1 Shot, however you have to go looking, I also use the Australian brand Solvers Brite Glo enamel. Which is a sign painting enamel and I find it to be very similar to 1 Shot.
    Sign painting enamels are what works best, ordinary enamels tend to be hard to use as they dry at different rates to the sign painting stuff.
    Something I do use for stuff indoors and especially good if you a learning and practising is the small cans of Humbrol model car enamels. These seem to have the same consistancies as sign painting paints and are very cost affective when you are learning. However I don't recommend using them on stuff that will be out doors in the weather. But are very good paints to learn with.
    I only ever use mineral turpentine in any of the paint I stripe with. I have had a play with 1 Shot reducer, back didn't like it, so have stuck to turpentine. When you become more experienced you will know what works best for you.
    I only stripe for my enjoyment and don't work with paints everyday, so I guess there is a lot I don't know about what can be done with paints!
    Just my 2 cents worth! Geoff aka whodaky
     
  14. "The Kid"
    Joined: Nov 1, 2005
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    hey rockabillybassman i just got my first brush about a week ago i've been practicing hard and i killed my self laughing when i read your parkinsons diease comment i think im having a bout as well:D oh well aparently every body starts out shit.
    hey WhoDacky where abouts in aus are you sourcing your paints cos im also using house paint at the moment and its not flowing out of the brush real well ive tryed thining it but then theres not enough pigment or it sorta smears instead of flowing cleanly out of the brush. any other tips or prods in the right direction would be great.:)
     
  15. Irish Dan
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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    I knew an old sign painter for years who has passed away since. He used a lot of One-Shot. He also had a technique for preserving his brushes I thought was clever. He would punch a hole the same diameter as his brush in the top of a Mason Jar lid so he could push the stem of the brush through the hole in the lid, screw the lid on, and extend the brush tip down into the jar filled with thinner. Using that method, the brush would always be clean and moist, and would almost last forever. He told me the worst thing you can do to any brush was allow it to dry out. Just a thought.
     
  16. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
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    Marty,

    Just go down to Resene and get a few of those testpots, I can assure you that is all Scotty uses and has been ever since I have known him ....1974 or 75.
    I think Dominion paints brought some one shot in years ago and it didn't sell well enough for them to bother,....... The Resene enamels are a lot higher quality anyway due to the high UV, ozone and the consumer protection act...... You know the story down here, the market is too small for almost anything imported.
    Turps for cleaning, linseed oil for storing your weapon .
     
  17. Skate Fink
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  18. whodaky
    Joined: Dec 6, 2003
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    from Aust

    Hey The Kid,
    I am down in Gippsland in Victoria. Last lot of One Shot I got at Supply One in Metropolitan Avenue, Nunawading. They also have some Mack brushes. I get my Solvers, Brite glo Enamel form the local Paintright shop.
    You will find that the right paint will be a big help to your striping along with thinning it to the right consistency for your use. I actually pallet my paint and dip the brush into Turps periodically to maintain the paint consistency I prefer. Each striper seems to have different ways of going about things.
    I don't get to many events these days. Mainly just the Picnic and the Kustom Nationals and don't stripe much for others anymore. But if you see me around say hi and I can perhaps give you some tips! Geoff aka whodaky
     
  19. Thanks to you Aussies....
    Thanks also to 97... I enjoyed meeting you at Kumeu. I hung around Scotty's area for a while but he was always busy talking to someone, and I did'nt see him doing any striping. However, I had a good look at his panelvan, and he sure does some good work. I'll try those Resene testpots....
     
  20. CPR Customs
    Joined: Dec 26, 2005
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    I have been striping for a few months and when I didnt have any 1shot I found it better to not thin the regular paint at all. When I used mineral spirits I did not have thick enough lines so I tried with none at all. That was good enough for practice but 1shot makes it so much easier.
     

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