Hey All, I bought this project and just got everything home, I know the major stuff of what i bought but this is my first A and am green when it comes to id'ing things. I was told the frame was a coupe frame, but I think I read somewhere that they are for the most part the same. The front end, what can I learn about it, its got juice brakes, so that i would say is pointing towards '40s. It got a two speed rear axle, what can you tell me about it? can any direct me to a page that has more info? I pick up a grill off of something else, whats it from? thanks. Kory
Well that is not a model A cab or ch***is. can't tell much about the front axle from here other then it looks a little bent and it has juice brakes. The cab could be a 33/34, same with the frame. The grill is an international harvester like around a '50? The rear may be a Colombia 2 speed, do a search n Colombia 2 speed rear ends. I can't ID the banger or the transmission but some old banger guys can probably help you with that.
You scored with that rear end for sure. What you have is not a Model A though. The engine looks like it's a Model B or C banger with a truck gearbox behind it. If you want to build with that, great, those setups are far less common than the Model A versions. The transmission is probably not suitable for a hop up but I'm not an expert by any means. You should be able to find a later transmission to fit. I'm not sure that little banger will push the OD rear end all that well without some clever modification but if you pull it off that would be super cool.
Good on you, Kory. Great start. Stock up on the bandaids and get started putting that on the road. I agree with above, it appears to be a Columbia rear, and if it operates smoothly, quite a score and parts are available. Also agree concerning the transmission. Easy change-out to stock 3-sp Model A or B. Of course many more exotic options are available. Won't be a hot rod, but lots of fun to be had. Go get'em. Rusty
The ****** should hold up to a flathead V-8 OK. The only mill more cool in front of that ****** that I can think of would be a 21 Stud. But I am not a banger guy by nature. I think the banger would pull the 2 speed if the gear was deep enough. Just depends on the gear I suppose.
The truck gearbox, if it's a B or C 4spd, should have a pretty deep 1st gear. I'm just not sure the banger will give you enough grunt to keep you going with the OD engaged without some tinkering and hop-ups.
The closer I look at that engine, the more it looks like it came out of an AA truck. I don't see a vac port on the intake. U;d be inclined to tell you to find someone who's looking for a banger and a guy who needs an AA truck gearbox (they are out there) or someone who needs both and sell/trade them to get you a nice flathead V8 and transmission.
I see where you are coming from, I don't know the OD ratio for the Colombia. That still leaves my flatty option though. Not so much any more but used to be that V-8 60s were plentiful common from inboard boats and they often were already hopped up. yea I know hopped up and V-8 60 are an oxy *****. If nothing else the Columbia would or is good trading material. The guys that like 'em really like 'em.
I was thinking a Model A motor also and that grill is from a 41-49 International K series. if it has holes on the slats to hold stainless trim it would be the 47-49 style but they will interchange.
Front end looks like a 32-34 with juice brakes. No spring hanger out front. Engine looks like an A with that exhaust manifold and I cannot tell if there is a fuel pump or not
Alchemy, Help me out here if you don't mind, how to you tell a '33 ch***is from a '34? It is something that I have never figured out and you would know if anyone does.
The front crossmember and radiator mounts are differnet, spindlier and more graceful. 1934 was a lot more beefy. 33's had a large holes for the stub on the front shock to stick out (in board shocks), where 34's mount on the outside of he frame and does not have that hole in the frame rail (but they still on the hole on the inner frame piece)
Chris, Thanks man. I have wondered that for years and the idea of asking never happens when it is a good time to ask.
Hey buddy that grill and quads all molded together would be the bomb. Grill shells are easy to come by, I would sweat the grill shell until the time comes. But like tubman says that Binder grill is probably not the best bet for a front end on that little truck.
That grill may not be right for a 34 ford but SOMEBODY WANTS or NEEDS IT! I see grills like that go for pretty big bucks on the epay pretty often. You can totally flip that and turn it into decent project money I'd wager. There's one on there now that's beat up worse than yours going for about $300 all in, and another with fenders for about $650. The big deal with them seems to be the chin area. Most of them seem to be damaged down there. EDIT: And I found another nice one similar to yours that's listed at $460 all in (incl. shipping). Granted, these are the asking prices, not the sold for prices, but a good guideline.
Like any project you keep the best pieces and peddle the rest for pocket change. There are some pretty cool pieces there for sure and ***embled properly it is one cl*** project. hands down. Personally I would give a testicle for a 33/34 ford pickup.
By the way those frames are identical for all body cars and light trucks except cars have holes along the bottom edge for the running boards to bolt to the side of the frame, and pickups theboards bolt to the bottom of the frame
This is what the back of a 34 cab looks like,notice the extra wide bead across the back above the double belt line,a 33 doesn't have that large pronounced bead. HRP
The year of the cab may not be as important as the numbers on the frame when it comes time to ***le it. I would much rather have a '33 with a '34 cab and a clean ***le as a '34 with w '33 ch***is and a bogus ***le. Good info though I am just picking up all kinds of tidbits today.
See? Good taste and extra scratch for your project. Hard to beat! ****** : I love looking at '32-'34 trucks, but I can commiserate with you. I had a friend that had a channeled '34 that asked me to go for a ride. I literally couldn't get into it!
Well I'm pretty narrow except for my shoulders, and my legs are pretty short. I run into a problem when someone else gets in with me. I looked at a project truck when I first joined the HAMB and less the flatty and transmission the guy wanted 4500 for it and that was when you could still buy an A bone roller for about 1500. I'll find one that I can afford someday, be better if I found one today but someday will probably be soon enough.
Cab and frame are well covered, rear is a Columbia, either 37-41 or 42-48, front axle looks to be 33-34 with hydraulic brakes. Looks like 33-34 17" wheels also. Engine is A or AA, I can see the oil tube behind the carb. Fitted with a side mount governor. AA bellhousing is desirable for T5 Transmission swaps.
I have to get my bike back together then I'll be on my way, guess I better rig up a hitch on my bike huh. There is actually a project truck that I found worth the money if I could just find a buyer for my Willys.
The Grill is a International KB series, 1947-1949 Series KB1-KB5 but will also fit the K series 1941-1946 series K1-K5. Difference is the stainless trim holes on the KB and none on the K. Looks to be in great shape most have the lower chin smashed.
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