Hot Rods help with frame line/thy frame fittings

So I'm running the standard brake line stuff.the 3/16 or whatever that an very common, my issue is with the front.I was running that hard line,with a male fitting,into my rubber line (female) well now my frame is boxed NOW and need a thru the frame fitting.ivenlooked and all the parts places tell me I can't do it.that their thru the frame fittings arnt for rubber line (one side is flared for hard line the other is for an steel braded) they say they have no adapters.

Can get some help fellas? Part numbers,pictures,etc? I'm sure there's a way

 

Show some pics of what you have, we may have a solution, there aren't many combinations that have not been dealt with before.
Google Art Morrison tech story on thru frame fitting issues regarding trapped air and bleeding .
It may have been in their catalog, which I no longer have.
Also check out Godman high performance, they have a good selection of fittings and adapters.

 

2" hole saw for access and room for line wrench or tab under frame.

 

Just run the brake line over the frame, and do it neatly, and add a tab for the rubber end with the clip. Or, go high tech and get some stainless lines. Then if you don't like the look, shrink wrap them in black, or use some spiral cut black plastic. Best thing about stainless lines are they don't balloon out and cause the pressure to drop. Which is a good thang. Otherwise, continue your search. Perhaps someone has hit this same wall and tooled up a solution, made a few extra and is selling them to cover the cost. If it was me, I'd study it from the point of view of an adapter into an adapter, AN male into AN female with the correct male 3/8 female. Clunky perhaps but doable. Or have some machined up and be the 'go to guy' for parts to solve this problem. Lots of CNC machines out there watering at the mouth to create miracles.

 

Give Godman Hi Performance a call 800-456-2369. They have any fitting you need and have never let me down. Their catalog is great, ask for one. It does sound odd though trying to go from 37 degree AN to rubber flex but if anyone can get you the fitting Godman can.

 

I went through the same dilemma when working on my truck. I tried and tried to get it to work my way but no one makes adapters for what I thought would be a common problem. I finally gave up and used AN braided steel hoses and a through the frame bulkhead from Speedway. If you are set on rubber hoses you probably will have to run a tab under the frame to connect the hard lines to the hoses and fix it there.

 

I used a 45 degree S/S banjo fitting with banjo bolt to attach hard line to through frame fitting. Not legal here to use 37 degree AN banjo to hardline, must be double flared. We can use S/S flexible brake line to through frame though. All must be DOT approved.

 

AN fittings arnt allowed in Australia? What about aircraft?

 

I had same problem finally made a special drill bit. Used a 3/8' bolt to go thru the frame. Made them and have not leaked in seven years. Go to my roadster album and look on page three. PM for more info. Correction 1/2" bolt.

 

Use the traditional style,,just go under the frame. HRP

 

The thru frame fittings really are more trouble than they are worth.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Remov...1&cadevice=m&gclid=CKnn2rDX08QCFdgDgQodoSQAeg

 

Cut the AN fitting off of it. Drill and tap for 1/8 pipe threads and use whatever fitting you need to get to where you are going. If you need a pic of mine, I will take one and post it up. HTH, Dennis D

 

Can't go under the frame.wishbones will hit it and on top of the frame will look like **** IMO.

 

Without waffling on, NO. National Code of Practice (NCOP) stipulates:-
2.4 COMPONENT STANDARDS
...All hydraulic pipes must be double flared in accordance with SAE J5336 or equivalent and
appropriate flare connections must be used
Hydraulic pipes must not be welded, brazed or silver soldered.
Hydraulic brake hoses must comply with SAE J1401 or equivalent. Flexible hoses complying
with ADR 7/... or ADR 42/ 04, including braided brake hoses, are also acceptable...

A 45 degree double flare will hold 3K psi, a single 37 degree AN flare (Ferrule & nut) is good for 7K psi. Many cars these day use OEM metric bubble flares, 1/2 a double flare..

 

This one got me out of bed. I know I offered some suggestions earlier that skirt the question of 'period correct' because I have authority issues and can prove it. But, I got to thinking about this, and it occurs to me that through the frame fitting, if they only fit stainless lines, can't be period correct for the teens, twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties and that pretty much expends the time frame for what this site is about. So, to the statement that 'over the frame will look like ****'; what period Hot Rod are you building? Certainly not anything traditional that I know of, and I don't mean to be an *** about it. Because, otherwise, not to put too fine a point on it, you're building something 'high-tec', or you're (god fordid and I laugh here because these guys kept the hobby alive through some lean times) building a dreaded 'street rod'. Yeah, I know this seems silly, but what I'm saying is obvious enough to point out.

 

I'm confused now. This statement suggests that the AN flare will withstand a higher pressure which in braking terms must presumably be better. And yet in Australia the AN stuff isn't allowed for street use. Seems somewhat counter intuitive, or am i missing something?

Chris

 

Fortynut-you are being ridiculous and your comment will not get a rise out of me

 

What is the thread size and description of the rubber hose fitting you are trying to adapt to the steel fitting?

 

Here is a pic of what I did on my car. D

 

Dennis is that an an adapter to 3/16 pipe thread?whatever it is ,that's what I want to do!

 

Woodie-like I mentioned above,I have just the standard ruber brake likes (female) and the standard flared hard lines that every american car uses.frame wasn't boxed in that section before so the flared hard line just went into the ruber hose thru the frame

 

Not sure if your frame is painted and I am putting this out there with the thoughts that it is not. I would take a piece of black pipe of the correct size that can be tapped inside for 1/8 inch pipe thread, drill my hole through the frame rails insert tubing then weld it up, grind it smooth with the frame and tap both sides and use an 1/8 inch male to male adapter on the rubber hose, or if possible swap out your rubber hose for one with 1/8 inch male thread.

 

Looks like a conventional 1/8" NPT to 3/8" 24 adapter attached to that through frame fitting. It allows the use of hydraulic brake hose with male fitting to inverted flare?

 

I'm using thru the frame fittings with rubber hoses, I made my own thru the frame fittings but you could cut off the male 3AN and tap out and seal with a copper washer.

 

Go to the Godman web site and look at part no. 2826 or 2828. They are 3/16" or 1/4" OEM to -03 or -04 AN male. You will need a -03 or -04 female coupling from your thru frame fitting to the above fittings. I think Dennis has your answer though.

 

Actually, YOU are being ridiculous. Fortynut is all right.

How about you whittle up something like Langy did above? Running a mill and lathe is very traditional.

 

Alchemy-whats your proboem? Keep the negative ******** out of this.like kindergarden

 

I picked up the fittings through Earls. They are still around aren't they?

 

True, but ---
Back when I was doing it 10 hrs. a day for 30 years "traditional" was not the word I used.