Just catching up on your post. It was chopped about 150 feet away from where it is now. I was going to surprise you. I have a rear section of a 50's convertible frame that goes with the car. How about a chopped convertible. I doubt this body has moved like some guys are saying. The convertible had the same frame with some extra 1/4 or 1/2 inch plating along the X member. Look at it and let me know. We can weld in some braces for the trip no problem. Daddio
Now I maybe wrong here, but I think he asked what needed to be braced. Then you replyed with alot about how important it is to brace it yet you did not tell him where to brace it. Yet you throw in at the end that you can do it for him...at a price. That just aint right in my view...but then again who am I. Ok Keith you will need to brace it in a few different ways. For transport . Then again you will need to brace it for everyday driving. Transport. You will need to brace it in a few ways. You will need to secure the roof down, yet down mangle it with tie straps. On the inside you will want to weld in a brace right behind the door opening from side to side, straight across the car...to prevent sway. You may also want to brace from the doors to the trans tunnel to prevent sag from the shifting of the car in transport. The key here is to make sure that the braces are solid in place...not welded to all hell just in there to where they can come out and not have to be hacked out to where it can mess something up...take that for what its worth. Ok then when your doing your chop, you have to figure out how your doing it. Hardtop, without the pillars, or are you going to try to make it work with them. Or carson top...or convert. If you are doing the carson top or convert, Your going to have to add at least six different braces. You will need to brace behind the rear seat in an x, yes there is one from the factory, but you will need to go from either where the frame is mounted, or the base of where the carson top shall sit. There is going to be alot more weight in this spot now, so you shall have to act accordingly to this. I would also run a brace from the package tray outer edge ( where your x brace should mount) down into the compartment of the car, you may have to cut some of the sheet metal out of the interior wall under the rear window, do it clean and you can weld it back. So you can run a brace down to the base of the door opening with the striker on it ( on the inside) so that any torsional flex would be sent into the reinforcement and not the body. It will make the whole car stiffer. and also you may wish to run straight reinforcement from the package tray area down to floor of the trunk ( to the frame would be best) so that there is support in the middle of the package tray, so there would be less chance of twist. I learned alot of this by trial and error. I am very happy with the bracing in my chopped 54, and I did not go as extreme, but for a carson or convert...you must. Oh and PM Nads, he is a solid guy to talk too, and he has done all this before. He will help you with it, he helped me...and he was right on everything..
hey dude if this guy dont want my help.he doesnt have to come to me..its that easy..i dont have to prove anything to you or anyone else..ive ..PM'ed him several times with some info on what he needs to do i even gave him my Phone # if he wants my help he can call when he is ready..my work speeks for its self...i have offered my service to him if he wants..i dont live to far from him and i can fix his car for him.
Prove yourself, I never once asked you to do that. Now did I? I said why dont you just tell him what he needs to know. You want to make some cash of the kid, by doing some work on the side in your garage in your spare time...cool. That between you two, but he asked straight out "Where do I have to brace it" your come back was about you chasing down the dollar. You are not trying to "Help" him. Helping is based on lending someone your insight into doing something he did/does not know how to do. Not trying to make 2800 out of it. I am sorry but to me thats not helping. You are not handing down any knowledge, your not showing him anything. You are just making him into a customer. Helping would be more like you saying "Hey you cover cost of supplies, some beer and maybe a bbq...and I will show you how to get that body into shape. Now thats helping. See things like this thread, are the best and worst of the passion we share in cars. Some people just want to see the things they learned get passed on, while others want to fund their bankroll. Sorry if me calling out the fact that your just all over the kid about money in every post you put up twist your********, but I call'em like I read them. You could have mentioned that fact you can get paid to do it once, and then carry on with giving the kid some info. You did not do that. SO when the old guys you learned from...I would hope you learned from someone else how to do the work your doing on cars...showed you how to do something, did you fund their bankroll? Further more, I know alot of guys work out of their house and do some insane work. Yet they are not at all weary about giving out some info for everyone on this forum to read. You talk about PM's between you and Keith. If your pm's had so much secret info in them, then why is he still asking for more help. You would have made me feel like I would have to pay you to just talk on the phone, with the way you jump out there with your 2800 offer. Money is not what this forum is about, thats why the old rules of being here two weeks before posting something for sale...so you are not a******* and grab, jump on the trend and ride it for every dollar type of poster. See in the way of the old timers, not*****ing old schoolers...fuck that term. They showed our generation things so that we would carry them on...not money. I see you mentioned that old cars is your new hobby...its not a hobby for most of us here. Its a way of life, alot of us grew up doing this. Not just jumping on when Jesse James said it was cool. We all did not run out to buy our 53-54 belair and bag it that day. I dont know you, and I dont have to. You gave me a sense of who you are and what your about with your dollars screaming posts. You dont even own a shop, nor work in one. You just started working on these cars 3 years ago, and now you are looking to make money off of someone else that is just starting out. I think you need to be a bit more humble, and learn alot more before you start getting people to pay you for side work. Hey get all pissed over this, I am sure you will. I am still sticking to the fact that if you want to learn something and you ask anyone...they should not mind telling you a thing or two...further more. This would be the (how many times that you chopped a 53-54 chevy?) Since you are so bold to be doing this for such a short time. I am sure you know how to brace the car and make sure its safe to drive down the road, and become a*****ing death trap. See its things like this that piss me off. I dont claim to know everything...over even a tenth that some of the great guys and gals on here do. Yet I would not even start to take someone elses life in my hands and chop their car, when I have done very few. I see your into mini trucks. Its alot different handling a mini truck...body drop them, bag them...they still only weigh 2200 pounds...you take a 4300 pound car, and then add that is it over 50 years old...then start cutting away structural parts of it...its becomes very unsafe...unless you know how to wweld it all back up...and weld it up right.. Oh and you should not have to prove yourself to anyone, esp not yourself everyday.
Hey Merg, I have been feeling old lately. Thanks for calling this 42 year old a kid. It made my day. I think I will have a beer and go play in the garage. Have a great weekend. Mike
Hell we are all kids...I felt like one today when I went and pick up my 54 from the trans shop...whoo hoo
dude calm down...i dont do this by myself..i have chopped 3 chevy's with in the last year..but i work along side of a guy at a place called leo's rod&customs...the old man is not computer smart ..i asked about keiths car told him what the deal was ..and he set the price..and yes i have learn alot from him and can do allot of the thing he has taught me..and could do the work on my own but he sets the price..the chop on a 53 54 chevy usally runs 45 to 5500 ..but he said being he already paid 1400 for the car and someone screwed it up..we could fix and finish for him for 2800.....oyea dude metal is metal some are a lil thicker than some but ..the way i see it if ya could rebuild a mini and not warp the metal on those things just think what ya could do on a 53 or a 54 or 39 or a you get my point...uyea whens the last time you gave someone at your place a free tattoo?..well leo's aint know free shop either thats what he does for a living...and my garage is where it would be roughed in welded up..then it would go to the shop.. and if you ask kieth ..i beleive i told him that
[QUOTE=uyea whens the last time you gave someone at your place a free tattoo?. actually I give free tattoos on every sunday! I do it for friends, and for people around here that want bad art work covered but cant afford it.I also give free one hour tattoos for 18 year olds that want their first tattoo. I know that if I ever need anything, those that I am good too in life will be there to help me. Thats what good karma is...its never about good money. So there ya go...some things in life are indeed free. Oh and I meant the fact that when you cut the roof off a old car you change the strength of the car, and do you know enough to put it back to being safe enough that if god forbid he gets into an accident the car wont buckle in around him...would kinda***** having a chopped chevy become your coffin because someone wanted to make a quick buck...dontcha think.
The Jalopy Journal
