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Technical GM pump to mustang 2 rack and pinion issues

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by clips221, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. clips221
    Joined: Nov 17, 2010
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    I'm having problems with my steering setup on my 37 Ford pickup. I've searched on here but didn't find my answers. I've got a GM power steering pump and a 80's Mustang 2 rack and pinion. The racks new but been in the truck for a few years. Got some hoses made to connect the 2 together. cranked the truck and the steering would turn really hard one way or the other. I could not hold it back. My power steering pump was old and I thought it may have been bad. I replaced it. It does have a pressure reducer valve in line. with the new pump I still get the same results. I can't hold the wheel from turning. Am wondering if I have the high pressure and return line crossed on the rack?
    any suggestions are appreciated.
     
  2. 325w
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    Sounds like it's crossed. You did bleed the system first didn't you?
     
  3. Those pumps are known for having to much pressure, they make a replacement valve for it to lower the pressure, it goes in where the pressure line screws into.
    This should give you an idea,
    http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performa...ing-Fluid-Flow-Control-Valve/2088411/10002/-1

    PS post up some pics i need motivation to finish mine, had it since 81 and still half way done, always seems i am working on somebody else ****.
     
  4. badshifter
    Joined: Apr 28, 2006
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    You have the lines swapped. Simple fix. Don't run it like that or the return hose will blow. It's not rated for the 800-1200 psi a pressure hose is made for.
     
  5. gimpyshotrods
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    You either have a Mustang II rack, or an 80's Mustang rack, not both.

    The last year of production of the Mustang II was 1978.

    The first year of the Fox-Body Mustang was 1979.

    The racks in Fox-Body Mustangs (and later T-Bird ones) operate on a much higher pressure and flow than the MII racks.

    It does sound like your lines are reversed, ***uming you not have a severe alignment problem.

    If you do indeed have a rack from the 80's, you may not need the pressure reducer. It might just make the steering harder.
     
  6. OLDSMAN
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    The late mustang rack is the same one that was used in Fairmonts and Zephers. Those cars with 6 cylinder engines used a GM power steering pump. The 39 Ford that I had I used a GM pump, and never had any issues with it.
     
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  7. gimpyshotrods
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    Bingo, 'cause that generation of Fairmont and Zepher, despite their looks, were Fox Body cars too.

    Yup, same ch***is as the Mustang.
     
  8. rfraze
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    Reverse the hoses.
     
  9. hotroddon
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    Hoses are backwards for sure
     
  10. clips221
    Joined: Nov 17, 2010
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    You guys rock. Hoses were backwards. thanks for all the replies.
     

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