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Technical Need help identifiying winters intake

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kevin Ginn, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. Kevin Ginn
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    nova pictures 005.jpg nova pictures 004.jpg nova pictures 005.jpg nova pictures 004.jpg nova pictures 001.jpg nova pictures 002.jpg nova pictures 006.jpg nova pictures 007.jpg nova pictures 008.jpg nova pictures 009.jpg nova pictures 010.jpg nova pictures 011.jpg nova pictures 012.jpg nova pictures 005.jpg nova pictures 004.jpg nova pictures 001.jpg nova pictures 002.jpg nova pictures 003.jpg nova pictures 006.jpg nova pictures 007.jpg nova pictures 008.jpg nova pictures 009.jpg nova pictures 010.jpg nova pictures 011.jpg nova pictures 012.jpg nova pictures 014.jpg I know there has to be one of u guys that can help me on this one? it is stamped with the winters logo but i cannot for the life of me find out any info on the intake itself. The other problem is it has been converted to a mechanical fuel injection complete! minus pump. It is absolutly a work of art! the port job alone is artwork!! all ive heard is it came off of front eng. alc. dragster anyonbody know who built it? would like more info, was a cheap barn find, ive had offers from guys that just want the tunnel ram, would hate to tear it apart, somebody put alot of time,love and money for that matter into it. What do you think! Thanks
     

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  2. Can't tell you a thing about it other then it looks like top notch work and it would be a shame to tear it apart for anything other then a good freshening.
     
  3. squirrel
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    Holley Pro Dominator or something?
     
  4. With the Holley bases it would be fairly easy to convert it to an "injectorator" type of a thing and drive it. I may be inclined to do that with it if I owned it.
     
  5. Kevin Ginn
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    Best i can come up with it is a pro dominator but no holley logo only winters?
     
  6. I was talking about the throttle bodies, they are holley carb bases. Someone took an old winters intake and made an injector manifold out of it is what they have dine. I don't think I have seen a winters intake that came that way anyway. They have done what appears to be a top shelf job while they were at it.

    There is a mechanical injection that is totally streetable that is called an Injecterator ( Bill Mitchel I think came up with them) my idea was to take the fact that is uses carb bases as throttle bodies and build it up into a set up along those lines, you use the idle circuit and mid range circuits from the carbs and the injection is primarily your top end circuit. Is not mine and I am not suggesting that it is something that you should do with it. It is just something that I may try if I owned it.
     
  7. squirrel
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  8. Kevin Ginn
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    Solves the mystery of the intake, they must have polished off the logos to install injectors u the ****! thanks!
     
  9. lothiandon1940
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    "u the ****", Squirrel.:D
     
  10. Kevin Ginn
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    Ive been bangn my head to figure out how to use it believe u me! but it has been heavily ported n i dont have the budget or bottom end t support the kind of rpm t make work.
     
  11. Kevin Ginn
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    also looks like it has been drilled for a N.O2 fogger so who knows what size pills r in it?
     
  12. Kevin Ginn
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    No doubt its a pro dominator! but just went out and took a closer look, finish is as cast, also as a racer your self can explain the cooling set up? its pretty unusual too
     
  13. squirrel
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    The four corner cooling modification is a pretty common racing trick.
     
  14. Kevin Ginn
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    Electric pump?
     
  15. squirrel
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    Doesn't matter what water pump is on the engine....this is the outlet side of the engine, not the inlet (pump) side. This has to do with how the heads cool.
     
  16. Kevin Ginn
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  18. I have learned to look at everything you post, you miss nothing! thanks for the continuing daily education
     
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  19. TRJ
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    I don't remember whether this is the exact set-up, but I do remember that when Tom Toros was running the old Iacano dragster that he had a similar if not the same set-up on a smallblock Chevy. It was a tunnel ram intake with a mechanical injection set-up that was made up using four-barrel carb baseplates. I am traveling now, so I can't really do any more research on this until I get home next week. But, I remember photographing the dragster when it was green at one of the Street Rod Drags at OCIR back in the late '70s. There were some photos of the car in this form when we did an article on either a Street Rod Drags or Antique Nationals at OCIR in an old Popular Hot Rodding from the period. Pat Ganahl now owns and has restored the Iacano dragster and I believe he got it from Tom Toros. He may have more info on the injection set-up. Then again I could be totally wrong on all of this -Steve ****an
     
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  20. lothiandon1940
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  21. TRJ
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    No problem. I am traveling trying to finish up a couple of up-coming TRJ projects and haven't had much sleep in the past few days, so I apologize if these posts seem a bit "punchy". I just happened to stumble on to this thread when I had a couple of minutes of down time. I did pull pull up the article we did on the Iacano dragster in bare metal in TRJ #44 and Pat did get the car from Taros in a trade. There some historic photos of the car running at OCIR, the hood top is off and you can see that it has a small block in it. But you can't really see the injection. Pat does talk a little about the mechanical injection made from a tunnel ram and four-barrel baseplates. I agree with all of the others that it is a Holley intake with the Winters Foundry mark and the waffle pattern cast into the base. And it is a beautiful piece of work. Pat refers to Tom Toros as an "induction whiz" in a caption about the injection set-up.
     

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