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Technical Engine options 1933 Ford

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by PhoenixFear, Jul 4, 2015.

  1. PhoenixFear
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    I used to have an old '50s magazine touching on this subject but cannot find it now. Are there any good bolt-in solutions for a '50s engine to mount in the stock cross member for a 1933, other than a SBC or Flathead? Hurst made a ton of different mounts but I don't know if they were designed to mount to the cross member or not. I have recently been told pretty much nothing except a SBC or Flathead will bolt in place without making mounts to the frame. Thanks.
     
  2. It's going to be WAY easier and cheaper to make/buy /weld/bolt some engine mounts to the frame for the engine you want than it ever will be to hunt down some obscure engine.

    I hear the 1933 ford engine and Trans bolt right in with no modifications at all. There's a bunch of center crossmember and firewall monkey business that needs to happen once the changes start.
     
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  3. Nothing but original is bolt in anything after that is called hot rodding and hot rodding is not like an erector set, you have to make things fit.
     
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  4. ( .... and make some things not fit. ) Of course.
     
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  5. 2935ford
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    and even after you think you made them fit..........:)
     
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  6. F&J
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    Wait for more replies.

    The most popular Hurst mounts were made to drop right onto the original Ford rubber mount locations.

    Such as the front saddle mount for SBC, that's what it was originally made for. Cad and Olds etc are still available as repro, but not sure about what earlier Fords they fit.

    37-up for sure, not sure about the earlier ones.
     
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  7. deathrowdave
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    I had a zipper added to the engine and trans on my '32 ! No , really nothing easy , maybe a later flat motor
     
  8. F&J
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    Older hamb pic from Tommy:

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  9. thirtytwo
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    Hurst did make lots of bolt in flathead mounts ......BUT when running a adapter to the trans you are stuck with motor location , everything moves forward some early hotrods ran without a fan because of no clearance ,, you can solve that with electric fan. ... But why have a cool 50s motor and a gay electric fan?
     
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  11. F&J
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    .
    Correct, but there are ways to get an early OHV8 into the stock front mounts. I have a 1955 Olds 324 in my 32, using the stock motor mount holes in my stock 32 front crossmember, and I have a mechanical fan. I did not use Hurst mounts, but made my own, to get the motor where I needed it.

    I never had a 33/34, and I thought the engine area is shorter than a 32, due to the 33/34 firewall shape?

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    here is a recent thread about slightly changing the Ford mount system, to raise or offset the spacing. Read what Bruce says in several posts here. Ford made simple adapters to allow late flathead engine mount locations to line up with early Ford frame mounts, and Bruce said Drake has them? So, a combination of repro Hurst brackets, and those adapters, might get an early OHV 8 into the stock Ford crossmember holes. IMO
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...houlder-bolt-spacer-use.981759/#post-11056170

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  12. PhoenixFear
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    I found the write-up, actually in a Hurst catalog posted on here I had saved. It is under the page "Engine Swapping Tips" in the "Motor Mounting Madness" thread: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=25382 . I'm still wondering if Hurst intended these mounts to work in conjunction with their '28-'34 bolt-in mounts to the frame or to a stock crossmember.
     
  13. PhoenixFear
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    From reading further in the Hurst catalog, it looks as though Hurst suggests their A-28 mounts for just about every engine to go into this chassis. I'm sure if it would have just bolted in they would say "mount only" like they do for the later '41-'48 frames. This might explain why my original crossmember was chopped out and pieces of angle iron were bolted into the frame.
     
  14. I thought they came from the factory with 350's ??? Isn't that a bolt in?
     
  15. Read further into the ad,
    You need to use part "b" frame mount

    No biggie though as they are $0.85 a pair
     
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