Brake/clutch pedal assembly in a '32 chassis with CE X-member

Has anyone here used a Ch***is Engineering '32 X-member with a manual trans? I need a brake & clutch pedal ***embly & CE doesn't recommend that I use theirs?!?!?! Apparently it requires a hell of a notch in the X-member itself.

So, I'm looking for a good under floor or hanging pedal ***embly. Something simple & bulletproof. Any recommendations? Pics are always welcome.

Thanks, Jim

(...& yes, I would consider using a hydraulic clutch)

 

It is a bit of a pain.CE X and clutch pedal.
Matt over at Ionia did the ***iest set up on that I've seen.(on the nailhead ch***is?)
If you want to do a hanging pedal....I can hook you up

 

Alright Eric, what's the story on that set-up?

One reservoir for brakes & one for clutch? What is that M/C? Who makes that pedal ***embly? What's it cost?

Thanks, Jim

 

I'm not at where they are at..
but the pedals are Ansen copies I sell,and the mc is a chevy truck as I remember?
not expensive..
A push style slave cylinder-from Chevy pu would work well in your set up I think.

PM,and I'll get you more specifics tomorrow.
e

 

hey I did this set up in my roadster.
go to SPERLINGBUILT.COM scroll to bottom and in the search write floors and pedals and you will see a few photos using that Ansen pedal ***embly
good luck Brian Sperling
here is the outside shot...
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saved some pic's of Ionia's work..

 

Back in the day

The HOT setup was a Chevrolet V8 truck bellhousing with the hydraulic setup. Coupled with a Ansen set of swing pedals and it was on.

Should not be very difficult to find a V8 truck bellhousing

 

here is what i built for my 32 truck.it is using a 60-64 chevy truck bellhousing, master cyclinder and slave cyclinder.

-danny

 

if you use floor pedals,you will need to knotch the frame like this.

-danny

 

here are more of the truck pedals.i have about 1500 miles on the truck now and i'm very pleased with how the master/slave/bellhousing works.

-danny

 

Thanks for all the info guys. That swinging ***embly sure looks easier than cramming it in under the floor.

Question: Why use the truck bellhousing? What's the difference between it & the car bellhousing that I have here?

Thanks, Jim

 

i am having the same problem too:

 

and i am going to use a hyd slave cylinder set up like this:


as outlined in this post:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317651

and i think i will have to do something to the crossmember like danny did (hot rod pro).
but i don't want to spend more money to go in another direction when i am already this far along.

 

hot rod pro (danny) any pics of floor mounted installation when completed?

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284892&highlight=pedals+ch***is

another thread that might help, Im in the same boat, I think Ill be going with the wilwood hanging pedals, Ive given up on floor mounted pedals. Im sure wilwood is a good product but it really looks out of place in an old car in my opinion. Maybe the Kugal set up would look better but its a little more money.

 

well we really need someone who has done this to post COMPLETED pics of the entire INSTALLATION! i mean i know this is a difficult installation BUT i also know someone must have done it in the past.

 

Brady,

Looks like your's is in there crooked. I guess you could bend the pedals to get them where you want them but another alternative might be to do something like what Danny did (below) with the mount.

As for me, I'm going with Vaphead's swinging set-up.

JH

 

btt for the weekend crowd

 

I'll post some later on that show a P&J floor setup - mounted/welded to the boxing plate of the rail. It has my own customer X-member, but the problems are similar to the CE X-Member (which is what I was going to originally use). The shame is that you buy the whole X-Member kit from CE, then have to really go figure the rest of this out (why the heck don't they do it and supply a good set of options for manual trans users?).

 

well they (ce) don't recommend purchasing the two pedal setup. i know it is a difficult installation but i also know it can be done.

 

Vaphead @ Riley Automotive hooked me up.... as always!

Thanks Eric!

Jim

 

working on this today will get pics later

 

that's a nice setup....glad i saw this for future reference

 

My only concern is that I thought we had moved on from using a single reservoir MC.

 

Okay - a year later, here are some pictures of my clutch/brake setup . . . which is modified from the one that P&J sells. It uses a hydraulic clutch - with a slave cylinder or a hydraulic throw-out bearing. I haven't decided which one I'm going to use as of yet.

Here are some pictures in my custom 34 frame - though things would be VERY similar in a 32 with an X-member. The engine is a 392 Hemi - that is set back about 4 inches. You have to pay real close attention to everything - to ensure that your pedals don't hit the engine, steering, cross-members or anything else. With these big-*** engines, you pretty much need a shoe horn

My conclusion after all the work I did and after having looked at a bunch of "off the shelf" products is anything under the floor board will require some level of fabrication. There is a LOT going on in this area of a hotrod frame, so just be prepared to fabricate, weld, etc.. If you are not confident in your skills and equipment - better pay somebody who is . . . safety is #1!

Here yah go:

 

I'm going thru the same problem as most that installed a CE x-member. I don't want to install a hydraulic slave setup(something else that will leak) so I decided to build a mechanical linkage setup similar to this one in the photo.

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Thanks for bringing this thread back up Ralph.

About 40% of the ch***is we sell are for manual trans, and when I look at some of these pics from as far back as '09, I am still amazed at how much of the X-rail people remove to get clearance. The CE pedal will bolt directly in with no modifications, then you can relieve the round exhaust hole slightly up and down to get the enough travel in each direction. I have a post on our website from a few years ago showing this. Until you have a firewall bolted up, you really have no reference to decide where the toe board is located and therefore how much travel you need in either direction.

The post on our site:
http://clarkehotrods.com/2015/1932-ford-clutch-pedal-***embly

 

Thanks Tim for posting these photos. I highly recommend anyone installing a X member to purchase your X member,brake & clutch setup, and view your photos to make an easy installation out of it. I think, if you could sell a complete package , you would have a lot of customers buying them.