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Technical Ram Air III exhaust manifold information needed

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by '51 Norm, Aug 6, 2015.

  1. '51 Norm
    Joined: Dec 6, 2010
    Posts: 872

    '51 Norm
    Member
    from colorado

    Hi guys & gals,

    I recently acquired a set of what are advertised to be '68 RAIII exhaust manifolds and I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone on the HAMB has some insight/experience with.

    First off there is only one bolt used on the center ports as the second bolt hole is covered by the manifold. On one of the manifolds the front port has a bolt hole but is looks like it has not been used. My question is does this cause exhaust leakage problems? From what I see on the manifolds it looks like they hold but I am hoping to hear from someone that has run this type of manifold.

    Secondly the center port in the exhaust manifolds are divided. I intend to put these manifolds on a '63 421 and the center port on the head is not divided. Is there any advantage (or disadvantage)to fabricating and installing an insert to divide the center ports in the heads?

    I am wanting to use these manifolds to increase exhaust flow. Looking at them it is clear that they will provide no "tuned scavging" effect. At some time in the future I expect to but a blower on the engine and so hopefully the cast iron manifolds will hold up better to the resultant heat.

    The reason that I don't want to use tubeular headers is that I don't like them (short answer). I have had problems with fit, leaks, heat and noise with tubular headers. I am hoping that these manifolds will be an improvement in those areas.

    The manifolds have the following casting numbers:

    left side GM3 9791637

    right side 9797072-RH28

    I am unable to find any date code casting. I did find a place on each manifold where one could be but nothing is there. Is this a normal thing for this type of manifold?

    Thanks in advance for your positive answers,

    Norm
     
  2. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 24,942

    49ratfink
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    from California

    probably have to try a Pontiac forum. I had a Ram Air III in my GTO and never even knew they had different manifolds.
     
  3. Todd553
    Joined: Feb 16, 2005
    Posts: 544

    Todd553
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    I believe 69 was the first year for the RAIII. There was a RAII available in 68.
     
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  4. aaggie
    Joined: Nov 21, 2009
    Posts: 2,530

    aaggie
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    Quality headers such as Sanderson or Doug's fit well and don't leak. You will need them if you expect a blower setup to be anything more than eye candy.
     
  5. WDCreech
    Joined: Feb 10, 2007
    Posts: 7

    WDCreech
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    The RAII had round exhaust ports. The RAIII had D port exhaust heads.
     
  6. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 24,942

    49ratfink
    Member
    from California

    I was thinking Ram Air IV had the round exhaust ports, but it has been 30 years since I paid attention to Pontiac muscle
     
  7. saltflats
    Joined: Aug 14, 2007
    Posts: 13,600

    saltflats
    Member
    from Missouri

    I would bet that with a blower those dividers inside the manifold will be toast before long.
     
  8. stuart in mn
    Joined: Nov 22, 2007
    Posts: 2,793

    stuart in mn
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    The part numbers correspond to a 1969 GTO Ram Air III 400. The left one (9791637) was also used the previous year on the 1968 GTO Ram Air.
     
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