Hey everyone I'm new here. So I bought my model a a few yes ago that ce with a registration from New York And back then that was there ***les. What I'm wanting to know is how hard it is to transfer from ny to indiana
Ny archives building burnt down back in the day. No computer records to trace it back if it hasn't been registered since the. 60's. Good luck
Varies by state, but usually a statement of facts , bill of sale and verification of vin number by DMV or local law enforcement is all that is required. contact your Indiana DMV office they will let you know the proceedure.
Contact your DMV, ask them if they will honor NY. registrations ? A lot of states offer Street Rod new ***les, another question you can ask for a new build..
That looks to me to be a 1924 car, especially since it says "Model or serial number - T" on it. Look up the engine number here to see what year it matches: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/sernos.htm Did that paper really come with your car, and the number matches the frame?
What you've got there is a "Historical Do***ent". I too believe it's been altered, but I think it was a 1921 Model T. We all have our stories about DMV and the idiots you have to deal with, so you can stamp your frame & try your luck. You might end up being charged with falsifying a do***ent and altering a vin. Do it right & contact your DMV to find out what it will take to properly ***le your project.
On Alchemy's note...1900 pounds is also a bit too light even for an A standard roadster. Sounds also like Model T. A 24 T, without actually looking, would have a number way above 10 million. there were a LOT of 29's built, but by '29 top numbers would have been a bit over 2 million...I think the year shown is going to number out to '24. The printed 1929 of course is just the year for that certificate of registration, replacing 4 or 5 just like it also made out to the T. Without giving out your exact number, what is the ballpark size of the serial that is masked off?
And with good reason...suppose the antique shop guy who sold the certificate bought out the whole estate of the original owner...and the original owner of the T or A, whichever it turns out to match, had the car for 10 years and kept all the certificates neatly arranged in his filing cabinet...and now all 10 of them have been resold to different people who plan to ***le their rides, all of course with that same serial...? That is just an annual tax do***ent, NOT a permanent record of the car.
Like Bruce mentions there could be multiples of this registration out there. In the 80's there was a guy selling "***les" in an add in the magazines, basically he'd send you one of these registrations. People would use them for their car. When states started computerizing their records, it started to show up with multiple vehicles with the same VIN or serial number. Some states will not accept them. If they do, the numbers better match the car.
Twenty years ago that would have worked in Texas. Today it will not fly! Saw that info posted at the tax office!
When I bought my '30 tudor it had no ***le. I used a ***le company and they got a registration for it from New Hampshire (no ***le just registration). Maryland then accepted the out of state registration and I got a Maryland ***le. BUT the thing is, I gave the ***le company the serial number on the frame, they then did a ***le search and contacted pervious owners (or at least checked addresses) based on that serial number. Remember, the engine could still be out there and someone could be using that number. Oh, one more thing I had to pay tax in New Hampshire and Maryland. All in all over $700 to get a ***le, but it is the same serial number as is on the frame.
I have done an out of state ***le transfer with no problem. I don't know if the dmv will take your paperwork. If not you want to apply for a lost ***le. It will be a task to complete.
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