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Technical 1979, 350 intake manifold

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 1959Buick, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. 1959Buick
    Joined: Sep 14, 2013
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    Hello,
    Doses anyone know if a 1979 Chevy 350 intake manifold will fit on a 1959 Chevy 283 engine?
     
  2. 56sedandelivery
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    It will "fit", but there will be some size differences in the port size; the 350 will have bigger ports. Does the 350 intake have EGR fittings? If it does, I'd find a different intake just for looks. They make plates to block off the EGR however. You should be able to find a 72 and earlier intake for little or nothing. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  3. squirrel
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    Should fit right on there. It'll look like ****!
     
  4. wedjim
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    I'll third that.
     
  5. 1959Buick
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    Thanks everybody I need the EGR to get a cleaner emission. otherwise I can not drive the car in the city anymore. Emission law. Stinky VW diesel are fine
     
  6. 1959Buick
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    Thanks Butch,
    so does the bigger ports matter?, If not, should I get the gasket from a 283 or 350?
     
  7. stimpy
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    one thing you should know about is in order for the egr to work properly there is a slight restriction in the exhaust ports ( the bumps ) or in the exhaust manifolds ( the bump right at the edge of them ) and the egr valve has to be matched to the size of the motor as there is a orfice that regulates the flow , you could use a egr valve from a 4.3 liter motor should be close too much egr bleed and the motor will act like it has a vacuum leak . but if you take a emmisions test you can retard the timing to get the NOX down also the vehicle build date has a lot to do with requirements I would check into it as pre 1967 cars do not have any emmission equipment and should be exempt . even Cali has a less strigent code .
     
  8. bobss396
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    I'll turd that....
     
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  9. 1959Buick
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    Thank you stimpy
     
  10. squirrel
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    Although if the EGR valve just has to be there to p*** an inspection, then don't worry too much about it. probably the 283 is in some later model car....EGR was not required on US cars until the early 70s, and typical 2 gas emissions tests to not measure NOx, so no one will ever know if it's working or not.
     
  11. stimpy
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    stimpy

    last year production was MY 1967 so it ill have some coverage in California built cars,

    but from trying to find out what inspection system they use they said that that BC has discontinued the air quaility testing as of Dec 31, 2014

    but what they they did have can do the 5 way gas ****yse ( nox was one of the ones on the list ) . and it has to be performed on a Dyno .

    what year car did you put this motor in ?? if its a post 74 car your going to have a little more problem with nox other than a egr valve ..
     
  12. Boyd Wylie
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    Buick,are you confusing EGR up with PCV ? I haven't seen EGR on a Street Rod or A restored older car.
     
  13. 56sedandelivery
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    I think IF your 350 intake does has EGR, then you'll need the gaskets for that intake, even though it's going on a 283. Like someone else asked, is it EGR or PCV that you are required to have? Tell us exactly what you're attempting to do, car make and year, engine year, carburetor, etc. IF it's a PCV that is all you need, I'd go with an earlier manifold. If you're having trouble finding one, I can probably help if you can't find something up there; I'm down in Everett, Washinghton State. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  14. stimpy
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    stimpy

    Hi Boyd !!
     
  15. JeffB2
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  16. 1959Buick
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    I like to say thank you for all your help. First I like to say that I keep my old intake..
    To drive this old Chevy in the City, I need the canister the PVC Valve and the EFE valve. I do not need the EGR Valve. I do not mind the canister at all. it takes the gas smell away in the garage. I did this on one of my other cars and it works very well. I also like to have a 4 barrel carb on the car and wouldn't mind one from the late 70's.
    I do not want a Edelbrock or Holly carb . I have on my two 79 Chevys the org. GM Carbs and they are working very well for almost 40 years thRWY7Z6Q7.jpg
     
  17. pdq67
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    Hunt up a stock cast-iron WCFB 4-barrel intake and go. Just use a cheap 4-hole adapter and install a 600 cfm Holley 1850 carb because you probably can't find a good WCFB carb anymore without paying an arm for it. The 283 power pack engines used the WCFB carb back then..

    And fwiw, a '59 engine is not required to have anything on it at all.

    No pcv to the carb or stove pipe on the air cleaner. Just run a draft tube and use a vented cap on the oil filler tube in front is all.

    pdq67

    PS., you ID the old WCFB carb by it's baseplate. It has a cast-iron baseplate and it will more than likely be rusted so will stick out like a sore thumb.
     
  18. Boyd Wylie
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    I'm still a bit confused. What City in British Columbia has emission testing? A Canadian car in 1959 had no emission controls on the engine. Therefore,none would be needed now.
     
  19. wedjim
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    Just an FYI...The EGR won't lower emissions by itself. It's purpose is to reduce NOX, which only comes from combustion temps that exceed 2500 degrees, generated by the restriction a catalytic converter causes. It introduces the inert gas from the exhaust system back into the combustion chamber, which reduces temps at cruise, under part throttle.

    The canister system is a great idea. Modern cars use a purge and vent valve to control fuel tank emissions and self test the system for leaks. But a simple canister and ported vacuum system that is controlled by a temperature sensitive vacuum valve in the intake coolant port works well to cut the vapors down a bit. Use a gas cap with a check valve that lets the tank pull air in though, not a sealed cap like on much older cars.

    The quadrajet is a great carb btw.
     
  20. 1959Buick
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    The car is in Europe. Most cities have 5 circles. As closer you get to the center of a town, the car must be cleaner. It is a 1959 Chevy Bel Air made in Switzerland . Like I said , only stinky VW Diesel are aloud in the city. ( Government owned company).
    Soon you will know this laws in the USA
     
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  21. Boyd Wylie
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    OOOHHH! I saw B.C. Canada on your ***le. Guess I can't help. [he says with a red face.]
     
  22. squirrel
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    nope, we do it differently here.
     
  23. 1959Buick
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    Hi Boyd, I live in Canada, but I am very often in Europe at the moment ( not that I like to )
     
  24. 1959Buick
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    Hi wedjim.,
    yes the canister works great. Easy to do and no smell at all. I paid $ 25.00 for all the parts
     
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  25. gimpyshotrods
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    Like hell we will.
     

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