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1952-59 Ford Nasty Ethanol !

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by JeffB2, Jan 31, 2016.

  1. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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    I will buy and refurbish carburetors to help fund the project so today I worked on a Carter 9605 from the outside it looks almost new the guy I got it from only had about an hours run time and cranked down on the screw that retains the metering rod piston and cracked the top[above the bore so that made it unusable luckily I had a nice shiny extra top in my parts stash. So I open it up to replace it and it looked like it was coated with white chalk inside,that stuff is hard to remove and leaves a calcium like scale Carb cleaner did not phase it much but PB Blaster melted it away and it cleaned up nicely. So here's a hint if you know your car will sit for a while you might want to remove the fuel line and squirt a generous amount of PB or WD-40 into the inlet to protect the internals.If can empty the Carb of gas if possible. Carb is now up for sale.
     
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  2. Texas57
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    Good tip, Jeff. That'll probably work on the lawn mowers also. Thanks.
     
  3. guthriesmith
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    I really can't stand the ethanol gasoline and neither can my old vehicles... I took a trip down to Texas late last year in my 56 and ended up having to fill up with some 10% ethanol gas a couple times on the way down. On the way back, my car was surging, etc. going up hills and I could barely keep it running at times. I haven't taken time to try to figure it out, but suspect that the ethanol worked something loose in the tank and it is trying to plug up my in-line filter. My carburetors are fresh rebuilds and I built them with ethanol safe accelerator pumps, etc.
     
  4. JeffB2
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    There are additives now to safeguard against ethanol because that **** draws moisture,if I add gas I give it a ****tail of Heet & Marvel Mystery Oil.
     
  5. PapaVolume
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    It's funny considering in modern cars looking to make bigger more safely they all run E85 or higher. Its a pretty awesome fuel if your car is set up for it.
     
  6. Paul2748
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    We've had 10 % here in NJ for about 20 years or more. Never had a problems with it in any of my old cars or my newer ones. Never used anything like Stabil either. Cars sit from Nov to March/April. My son used Stabil in an Edelbrock and it fouled the carb all up. Wouldn't surprise me that the Stabil does it.
     
  7. Rui
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  8. rustyfords
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    Being near Houston, I'm forced to run 10% in my cars. When ethanol became my only option, I put the Stabil (the Stabil that's supposed to fight the harmful effects of ethanol) in my gas and ended up ruining an Edlebrock 1405 carb.

    I've replaced that with another identical carb and have added no treatment whatsoever, and have had zero issues with this carburetor. Also...I am running all new rubber hoses designed to cope with ethanol (Gates Barricade) and they're holding up nicely.

    Where I have seen trouble is with my lawn equipment. The carburetor in my 1984 John Deere 318 has taken a beating and I've had to rebuild it twice since I lost access to non-ethanol gas. This model has a stupid two piece intake manifold (don't know why JD did that). It held up for 25 years and since ethanol, I've had to rebuild it twice (the rubber gasket has turned to mush).

    I won't even go in to the chaos unleashed on my 4 cycle weedwhacker.

    For the record, I'm good about running my gas engines regularly and don't let gas get old and nasty. So...I've seen a mixed bag with the ethanol.
     
  9. Texas57
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    I had the same issues with my lawn equiptment, ran stabile in them the past two years with no issues.
     
  10. guthriesmith
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    I avoid ethanol gasoline in lawn equipment like the plague (as long as I still can...) I have trashed a couple weedeaters using that junk. Also, I work for an equipment manufacturer that uses some small gas engines on the small equipment. We fight issues fairly regularly because of it... Most of the small engine guys have the details worked out now, but it wasn't very many years ago that we were fighting issues constantly. You guys just reminded me that I put some 10% ethanol in my old pickup the other day and it has an Edelbrock carb on it. I need to get that run through quickly.
     
  11. Mr. Tomato Head
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    I had the carb in my 55 rebuilt a few years back with "Ethanol-resistant " components. The car sits in the garage all winter, but I try to periodically start it and let it run for a half-hour tor more. So far, so good. (I also bought an electric lawnmower...Hee)
     
  12. Rui
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    I'm a bit maniac about starting the car. I run it almost everyday (when she doesnt have issues that is)..
     
  13. JeffB2
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  14. JeffB2
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  15. Paul2748
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    It isn't the ethanol that screwed up my son's carb, it was the Stabil

     
  16. Mr. Tomato Head
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    My car restoration brother-in-law was over last Saturday looking at my 55 Ford Country Sedan and suggested putting some "Stabil" or something similar in gas tank to protect parts against ethanol. I had the carb rebuilt with ethanol-resistant components several years ago. I've never had a problem, but now he's got me thinking about it. My car sits for the same period as yours. (I start it up once a month and let it run for a while.) Am I over-reacting?
     
  17. Venom51
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    I used to be able to find ethanol free gas in the area but, unfortunately not any more. I was told to use Stabil in one of my motorcycles (carburator) but (and it's a big but) told to run it every day. Well, I couldn't ride for a while. The inside of the gas tank, as well as the carburetor were full of a kind of varnish by the time I tried to start it up. It was a mess! It took me so long to get things back to a running condition.

    I'm hesitant to put anything in my car for fear of something like that happening again. I'm not saying don't do it but, at a minimum, check with others about their experience. Just my cheap 2 cents...
     

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