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Technical 54 bel air open drive line swap question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rhd, Feb 14, 2016.

  1. rhd
    Joined: Dec 2, 2008
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    from austin tx

    Is it possible to swap to a open driveline and still keep the 3spd?
    I would like to get the rpms down some on the hwy but I like the 3 on the tree. I tried doing a search but everything I found was changing the transmission too
     
  2. High5
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  3. aaggie
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    Your stock 3-speed is made for the torque tube drive shaft so it will have to go. You could use a later Chevy 3-speed and fabricate the linkage to connect the column shift. If you find a donor car you might be able to swap the column too. It can be done just a little more work than buying a floor shift kit. Tri-five Chevy won't work because you will need the tailshaft motor mount and they don't have one. you need 1958 and later.
     
  4. 302GMC
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    Just find a good used Powerglide rear axle ...
     
  5. Moriarity
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    yup, powerglides were 3.55 while stick was 4.11. I did this swap in a 52 chev i had in the '80's. night and day difference and it is a bolt in swap because the torque tubes are the same length. just change the ctr section (pumpkin) and you are good to go
     
  6. studebaker46
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    I was thinking 54 was first year for the open drive shaft
     
  7. Moriarity
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    54 is torque tube, 55 was the first yr for open drive in chevrolet
     
  8. little red 50
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    I have a 54 powerglide rear if you want to drive 6hrs. to get it.
     
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  9. Moriarity
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    ^^^^^ jump on this! they are getting hard to find
     
  10. rhd
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    I thought stick was 3.70 gears, would 3.55 be worth it? And red i wish i could man, no telling when i would actually have time to tho
     
  11. friend used a 55-64 chevy car rear and early 60s chevy car full sinc 3 spd
    still on the tree

    worked very well
     
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  12. 56sedandelivery
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    To use a 55 and later Muncie 318 3-speed, which is basically what the 40-54 transmissions are, only torque-tube drive, you'll need a Tri-Five six bell-housing or the truck bell-housing that has the bigger pattern. You want the six bell-housing with side mounts. The stock column linkage will work. That transmission does't have a provision for a rear mount however, so you''ll have to fab something up, or do without. Going to an open drive-line will really open up the gear ratios available to you. Rather than do all that work, the easiest way for you, is to go with the Powerglide torque-tube/third member, and some taller tires. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
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  13. Moriarity
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    I checked and you are correct. yours is a 3.70. the change to 3.55 would be a decrease of just a little over 100 rpms. probably not worth the effort, but combined with a taller rear tire like Butch said above it may be worthwhile
     
  14. rhd
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    from austin tx

    Thanks for all the input guys
     

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