Bitchin!! is it a tudor or a fordor"leatherback" how much did ya get it for?? keep up the barn finds!!
1930 four door leather back. all glass is there windw go up and down. and it runs and has a title. a very complete car. the headlights aren't original but stock ones are in back seat. going to pick it up on saturday for 1500 bucks
Its actually for fact a 29 because of the grill shell and fenders but still for 1500 bucks you scored.I just baught a 29 pickup:rusty as hell,motor stuck,on blocks,and no interior or glass and no title for 1800.00 ant I thought I got a good deal!! find anymore for cheap PM me!!! thanks
Great score, 067. I think I like the model A 4 doors better than the 2 doors just because they're so different and they make great hotrods. Got any more A-bones spotted over there? It's not a very long haul from Omaha...
looking at that cowl leads me to believe this is a 30/31, not a 29. unless the leatherbacks were unique, though i am no expert
From the cowl it appears to be a Briggs body 4 door. It should have a standard 28-29 gas tank mounted up from underneath. There was a cabriolet that someone on the HAMB was building up into a tough car that had a removable steel roof that made it look like a 3 window that had the same cowl as this 4 door. A mate of mine out here has the front of one from the B pillars forward less one of the front doors that he was going to try and piece together into a closed cab pickup. All the same, looks like a good buy to me. Michael
Four doors don't fit in with the standard identifying features very well. Look at that cowl a little closer - doesn't look like an average 30/31 cowl from a coupe or tudor... because it's a 28-29.
As others said, the cowl is not a great way to identify the 28/29 fordors. The 28/29 fordors actually have a cowl section like a 30/31 tudor. No 28/29 fordors ever had the smaller cowl with the bands in front of the doors that the 28/29 tudors had. That car is a great find. I hope you keep it a fordor and build a rod outta it. That would definitely be different!!
Michael, This is definitely a Briggs 29 Mordor sedan, which are all unto themselves. My brother looked @ one 7yrs ago & I thought way too much wood, He ended up buying a 30 Mordor needing even more work. It's now a roadster converted from a sponrt coupe. $1500 Thats a score any day of the week!
my mistake actully a 28. its got the red steering wheel and your right about the grill shell and fenders
If it's got a red steering wheel it's a very early '28, one of the first. It may be that this particular car would be more suited to the restorers. It may be worth more to a restorer if it is an early '28. It might be worth offering it on Ebay to the restorers first. Who knows, you might get coupe money for it. Ed
I've just been checking up on my books, and it would appear that that red steering wheel is non-standard. You will really have to ID the VIN before you start on that car to check out what you have. The Model A was introduced on the 2nd of December 1927 and the red steering wheel was only produced until the end of February. Although the Fordor was advertised right from the beginning, start-up problems delayed it's introduction for another 6 months, making a red wheel Fordor theoretically impossible. The Fordor deliveries started in May 1928. Briggs produced 82,349 Fordors for 1928 despite it's late start. A 1928 Fordor should have a brown roof and is called body style 60A. The 1929 has a black roof and was referred to as 60B.
well anyway I can't wait to get it home tommarow and start cleaning it up to see what I really got for my money. supposed to run gas tank smelled like varnish and it turns over guess it might . probably try and sell it so I can finish my 33 ford truck. but hard to turn down a find like this. Just had to buy it.
looked like a brown roof to me. I had another 28 2 door sedan but some old timer told me that it had 30 sterring wheel and column in it and a double a truck motor. so some time it must have been in a wreck or something also had after market honey comb radiator
Not quite right dodgerodder, although it is pretty academical. Briggs Model 135-A, the Taxicab was a four door 6 window design which utilized the "coupe pillar" front cowl. However with production figures of 264 for 1928 and 4,576 for 1929 I'd be surprised if any survived at all. Taxis don't tend to have good survival rates. But it does illustrate the importance of checking out what you have before cutting a Model A up. Some As are very rare and very valuble.
A 30 steering column swap on a '28/'29 is a common swap. The '30/'31 steering box is far superior to the earlier box. It's lighter to steer which is why many '28/'29s have later steering boxes in them.
hey thanks for all the good info. I got a buddy in Houston, Tx that will be here in a couple weeks that restores model A's. I'll have him take a look at it. I will post more pictures once I get it cleaned up
The Ford Bible. I don't go anywhere without it. "90 years of Ford" by George H. Dammann. ISBN: 0-87938-682-7 I just love sitting down and reading a year. It's brilliant.
ok some information I just found now. from what I understand there wasn't any lether back fouroors made in 30 31 but may be wrong. and I don't understand why someone would put a red steering wheel in it. It must have come that way. sounds like I need to get that book
It's definitely a 28-29. The 30-31s had a different body. It is one of three possible body styles; 60A - Brown leather roof 1928 60B - Black leather roof 1929 60C - Black rubberized fabric roof late 1929 The red steering wheel pre-dates the begining of Fordor production by 5 months. So unless it's some rare prototype from Briggs, that red wheel has been fitted later. There is probably a simple explanation behind that red wheel. I bet someone found a nice low milage red steering wheel for 50c in a junkyard sometime in the thirties and replaced his chewed up or bent original with it. As I said, post you VIN number, on the left hand rail just ahead of the firewall, and someone will date that car for you. Some poeple can work out the day of manufacture from the VIN.
some 28-29 cars have the date they were made stamped in th gas tank part of fire wall on the driverside
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