I have a ton and a half '35 Ford front axle with Budd style hubs and mechanical brakes. Is there a feasible way to convert to a juice brake hub that accepts a model A pattern wire wheel??
You may have to switch to a car spindle, but yes it can be converted using Lincoln backing plates, hubs and drums. Search Lincoln brakes or Juice brake conversion or the like.
I would disagree with you but I am thinking that you are probably correct. May this is an @Bruce Lancaster question. he knows all that chit.
I have a set of early big truck spindles; while they use a larger kingpin, the snout is the same as p***enger car. I do not know the exact year of the spindles tho, they are flat sided like '32-'36 car and the arms are shaped kinda like '35-'36 arms. If your 1-1/2 ton spindles were the same it would be easy to switch to '40 up juice brakes and drums that will fit an "A" wheel with a support ring. Only thing those big truck axles are "BIG".
I was thinking they were bigger. It's under snow right now but I'm getting antsy waiting on spring. Back in the 60's I machined and bushed '37 car spindles to fit Chevy hubs. I just like to go the easiest way. Thank you all for your help.
Sure. Here is a picture of the truck spindles I have along with one (top) matched up to a '37-'41 car spindle (bottom).
I don't think the pics RICH B is showing are big truck. I bet they are from a Pickup. The spindles on a 32-34 big truck have 6 holes that hold the backing plate on instead of the p***enger car 4 and I believe they are a bigger diameter at the mounting flange. So at least on those years it's not a direct bolt on. I'd think your best bet would be to try and make the axle fit p***enger car spindles by making sleeves for the king pins.
It's supposed to warm up in the next couple weeks. I'll get a hub pulled and see what I have to deal with. The king pin sleeve would be a lot easier than machining a spindle if it came down to that. Thanks again for all the info.
I wont try and quote kingpin dimensions from memory, but is it not possible that the ton and a half is the same o.d. as an f100 if it is bigger than say 28-41 car size? if it was, a set of f100 brakes and hubs would theoretically bolt on, but I believe the KPI is 2 degrees or so different from early ford to f100.
It's possible the KPI on the car is different than the same year 1 1/2 ton truck. Mix and match can bite you.
Definitely not pick-up; which are the same as car spindles. Like I said not sure of the year; but the kingpin is larger than the normal 13/16" and the axle yoke is quite a bit larger than a car axle, these are "bearing on top" spindles so what ever axle they were on had a lot larger profile than a car or 1/2 ton pick-up. The bolt pattern and register seem to match pre-'37 car and pick-up when measured and compared against a juice brake backing plate. They are also cross steer which should be post '34, I think. I have seen the six bolt pattern spindles somewhere too. I'm thinking on Model A big trucks which could very well have carried over into the '32-'34 trucks. All in all, a couple pieces of useless mystery parts to keep in a corner in case I ever figure out a use for them.
Thanks for posting the pics. I dug mine out and it has the 6 bolt backing plates and it is huge compared to a bare '37 car axle I have. Now I'm curious as to what will fit on the spindles. If I come up with some useful info I will post.
If you have a friend with a lathe, maybe you could weld up the 6 holes, then turn the whole outer part of the spindle down to match a p***enger car. Redrill the 4 holes. Of course you'll need to check that the kingpins won't interfere with the backing plate.
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