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Technical Remote Oil Filter ID Help

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by fiftyv8, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. fiftyv8
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    I know this stuff has been discussed in various forms previously, but what I am asking firstly, is there starting off with only an remote filter outer housing, is there a way to calculate the correct dimensions of the element that will fit inside correctly.

    I have a couple of housing that I would like to use into the future, all are different in size, shape or cap style.

    I get an element that I think or the parts guy thinks will work but I am just not sure at times.
    Either the inner hole seems too large diameter or the cap seems a little tough to get on, leaving me wondering if it is right or not!!!

    Because I don't know what vehicle my housing were used on I can not use the usual oil filter element list even if they do have cross over references or sizes/dimensions...

    I am happy to post pic's if we have anybody out there that has a good eye for what I might have and the part number to suit it.

    One I have cleaned up and painted and it sits now on my Cadillac flathead engine but without an element that I can be sure is right.
    The other housing are junkyard acquisitions, one of which I will use on my 365 Cadillac engine.
    The bracket for these other two looks to be close for fitting onto the water pump bolts of the 365.

    Any help or advice would be most appreciated.
    Russ.
     
  2. fiftyv8
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    PS: It would also be nice to know exactly springs and inside washers etc are needed to function.
     
  3. The 39 guy
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    Well you won't get much action or info without pictures......
     
  4. fiftyv8
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    Well, I would like to, but it has been a while since I've attached pic's and it seems correct me if I am wrong, that the only method now is by URL which I don't do being a traditional kind of guy that I am...
    If there is something I am missing and attaching from my computer still available, please give me a couple of hints to get me started.

    In the meantime, I figure a method of calculating an element size from a canister housing dimensions does not require pic's from my end just yet.
    I am sure there must be a rule of thumb method that can be used.

    Like I said,
    Any help or advice would be most appreciated.
    Russ.
     
  5. falcongeorge
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    You can still go direct from your picture files on your computer, you click on the "upload a file" ****on at the bottom of the post you are working on, click browse, and away you go.
     
  6. The 39 guy
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  7. Mr48chev
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    Works better if you have them on a photo host that you can post from.
    As far as the filter element goes I am pretty sure that you can find charts that give the dimensions of cartridge filters.,
    Ah hell I had to go look. Here it does it by measurements http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/FilterBySize.aspx
    Better yet, scroll to page 510 and start figuring what will fit. You can then cross the Carquest number in any filter book cross reference section. http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/catalogs/filters/cfi-light-duty-filters-interchanges.
     
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  8. fiftyv8
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    OK here goes with the pic's.

    This is the first of my 3 housings.
    I have been told that a AC Delco element PF122 should fit, but when installed it feels wrong.
     

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  9. fiftyv8
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    Here is the 2nd, I am thinking this could be a late 40's Chevy but that is just a guess.
    I can tell you that the PF122 filter does not fit since the cap is a flatter shape.
     

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  10. fiftyv8
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    The 3rd is smaller and I have acquired a filter that has a great ID size with rubber grommets at each end , is tight to get the cap on but looks to be sealing, however the OD is very small compared to what I am seeing when searching the internet images.
    I am guessing at P-7FF Height 4 1/8" x OD 3 1/2" x ID 9/16"

    It would be nice to know without guessing or is it not an exact science.
    I just don't want to screw up and do damage.
     

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  11. fiftyv8
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    Sorry about 2 of those last pic's, they turned side ways when loaded they are up the right way in my computer.
     
  12. The 39 guy
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    It's good to see you got the picture thing figured out. I can't help with the filter though. The third filter housing looks great on the engine!
     
  13. fiftyv8
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    Thanks for the kind words and to those who put me straight with the picture uploading.
    Now, I just have to wait and see if the right guy reads this thread and posts some good info...
     
  14. farmalldan
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    The first picture looks like the early Fram byp*** filter. I believe the element is Fram part number C4P. Any parts store should be able to acquire it.
    You do realize that these filters are byp*** type filters and will stand very little, if any, pressure?
    Good luck,
    Farmalldan
     
  15. 302GMC
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    AC P-115 fits the Cad AC canisters in posts 7 & 8. The painted Fram can would use a C-4 Fram, or AC P-209.
    The PF-122 fits '53-'59 V8 Buicks & Olds V8 '49 to mid '59, and most 228-270 GMCs with factory filter.
     
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  16. 73RR
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    There were many aftermarket canister ***emblies available back-in-the-day in addition to the oem stuff so without an existing element to compare to then you have to make some guesses...
    Try here:
    http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/FilterBySize.aspx

    .
     
  17. fiftyv8
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  18. 73RR
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    A lot of good information in that link!
     
  19. fiftyv8
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    I think, I have found a better element cartridge to fit my first posted canister housing, funnily enough it is a Ryco R4P or a Fram C4 that will work best.
    The Fram C4P is close but a whisker too tall for my liking.
    Also for the last posted canister housing, I am considering a Ryco R3P cartridge, although maybe a little small in OD it will fit and do the job until I discover something slightly bigger.
    To date, I have not found anything currently available that will work by my best estimates for the 2nd posted housing.
    I am actually surprised as I thought that this housing was an early Chevy (1940-50's) and that somebody would have been onto it and posted info right away.
     

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