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Technical SBC heads- can i swap valves out without valve job?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldrelics, Apr 4, 2016.

  1. oldrelics
    Joined: Apr 7, 2008
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    oldrelics
    Member
    from Calgary

    Can i swap different valves into the head without a valve job?
     
  2. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 11,513

    Blue One
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Alberta

    :confused: Maybe you could by taking the new valves and some lapping compound to lap in and seat match the new valves to the old seats, but that can be a hit and miss thing when it comes to getting a good seal.
    And that does nothing to address the valve guide issues that are most likely there.
    Better to just rebuild the heads.
     
  3. 1949SilverStreak
    Joined: Feb 25, 2013
    Posts: 21

    1949SilverStreak
    Member
    from Canada

    If the valves are the same size, guides feel tight and the valve face and seat look to be in good shape then give them a lap and see how the sealing surface looks.

    Rebuilt heads are better, however $30 to buy a lapping kit > $750+ rebuild bill. If you are willing to take a gamble, I'd say try it. Just don't advertise them as rebuilt....
     
  4. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
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    302GMC
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    from Idaho

    Not if you plan to keep the heads ...
     
  5. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 5,396

    indyjps
    Member

    I'd say yes, you can, I wouldn't consider it a good plan or a long term fix, the seats that are there are worn, you can get some kind of seat lapped in but it will be very narrow and will degrade rapidly.

    If it's to get to a vehicle on the road so you can get to work, then do what you have to do. Other than that, plan on some machine work.

    You might be better keeping the worn valves and worn seats, at least they have worn together. What's a leak down test showing?
     
  6. Yes indeed take your heads to the machine shop and let them grind the valves thinner and grind on the seats and sink the valves. Pay them money to make your heads not as good. Or install good valves with thick edges. and lap them with compound. install the valves and springs and fill the ports with gas. If the gas doesn't leak your golden. If the guides are really bad you will have to fix them. slightly worn guides will still be serviceable by using umbrella type valve seals.
     
  7. Mike51Merc
    Joined: Dec 5, 2008
    Posts: 3,855

    Mike51Merc
    Member

    To me it's all about the seating surfaces and guide wear. If those two things are good, why not?
     

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